i wanna hear some opinions on this match up,
ROUND 1
i think Ken is gonna be very cautious, and hes not gonna want to clinch with Tito again, and will try to box , but Tito will eventually get the takedown and pound on him for the remainder of round 1.
ROUND 2
Ken will show some desperation and probably try to knock Tito out but Tito will get him in the clinch, work some knees and take Ken down, initiate some ground and pound, when Big John steps in and stops it at 3:46 of round 2
ok you guys can kick me when it's over, but I'm thinking ken is going to take it. Just a gut feeling. I don't think tito is taking the fight as seriously as he would if he hadn't almost killed Frank twice allready, he's busy getting hummers from that blonde that he was with at the chuck/babaloo fight and sipping on xcience in his tighty wighties.
Meanwhile Frank has nothing left to lose except a few more brain cells and whatever remnants of pride he may have once had. He's probably training like Rocky Balboa with the raw eggs and pucnching side of beef and all.
Im really worried this is gonna be like a Rocky story were Ken does the impossible and beats Tito. It has all the makings for it. I still picked Tito tho
noone i stakin about this fight..yea Tito killed Ken last time, but their first fight was one of my favorites and Ken can take alot of punishment...so i think this fight could be fun to watch
Titos cocky Ken has more to prove and this could be his last chance to do it. I always say spirit gose further than skill and ken has more spirit and purpous this time.
This is bad, who would believe in Shamrock, hes got his ass kicked twice by Ortiz I don't get why people still believe he has a chance. Ridicolous, this is a bad way to retire.
Yes, Ken Shamrock is a legend but no he has no chance at beating Tito Ortiz, its a bad match up for him and hes too old, hes not the same fighter as he used to be when he pounded Royce Gracie and Dan Severn.
Ken's knowledge of fighting is so small compared to Tito's. Not talking about experience, just knowledge. Tito is better than him at every aspect of the game. He will own him. If he does not, I will put something in my signature about Shammy being the best ever or something.
I understand all you Shamrock fans wanting him to win. But him being a cinderella in this match, hell, cinderella would have as good of a shot at winning this as him.
There is a fine line between wanting someone to win and someone actually being able to win.
But as the addage goes, it is MMA, anything could happen.
Check my signature. Tito is my favorite fighter and I hate Ken. But I think Ken could be a Cinderella and this fight really worries me. No one is giving him a chance and that makes for a great story if he wins.
Ken's knowledge of fighting is so small compared to Tito's. Not talking about experience, just knowledge. Tito is better than him at every aspect of the game. He will own him. If he does not, I will put something in my signature about Shammy being the best ever or something.
I understand all you Shamrock fans wanting him to win. But him being a cinderella in this match, hell, cinderella would have as good of a shot at winning this as him.
There is a fine line between wanting someone to win and someone actually being able to win.
But as the addage goes, it is MMA, anything could happen.
Ken's just way too egotistical to learn new things. He's stuck in 1996, and it's because he's stubborn. He's a carny pro wrestler at heart. I agree that Tito is more knowledgeable. I mean, Ken still relies on leglocks.
I don't see a cinderella story happening, and if it does, I expect people to cry about the fight being a "Work". I don't think Sherdog's forums will ever stop talking about it.
because this is probably his last fight and big john won't want anyone to say he stopped it to quick ken will probably get brutally beaten for 3 rounds. He will look even worse then he did in the 1st fight. The one thing that pisses me off is the weight. Wand fight's heavyweights at there true weight he doesn't make them cut. Ken isn't a natural 205 or 206 or whatever they agreed on. So why don't we have tito not try and cut weight and ken not try and cut weight and just have a straight up fight at heavyweight. What's the big deal they don't have belts.
Ken's just way too egotistical to learn new things. He's stuck in 1996, and it's because he's stubborn. He's a carny pro wrestler at heart. I agree that Tito is more knowledgeable. I mean, Ken still relies on leglocks.
I don't see a cinderella story happening, and if it does, I expect people to cry about the fight being a "Work". I don't think Sherdog's forums will ever stop talking about it.
Theres no way anyone would ever fix this fight in Kens favor. Not saying it ever happens. But there would be no reason to seeing how it would be terrible for the UFC if Tito loses. It would make people alot less interested in Tito/Chuck 2 if Kens wins.
because this is probably his last fight and big john won't want anyone to say he stopped it to quick ken will probably get brutally beaten for 3 rounds. He will look even worse then he did in the 1st fight. The one thing that pisses me off is the weight. Wand fight's heavyweights at there true weight he doesn't make them cut. Ken isn't a natural 205 or 206 or whatever they agreed on. So why don't we have tito not try and cut weight and ken not try and cut weight and just have a straight up fight at heavyweight. What's the big deal they don't have belts.
About the weight thing. It makes no sense for Ortiz to fight at heavy. Ken has the advantage cuz he cuts more weight than Tito does. Tito is good at LHW, Ken is not.
because this is probably his last fight and big john won't want anyone to say he stopped it to quick ken will probably get brutally beaten for 3 rounds. He will look even worse then he did in the 1st fight. The one thing that pisses me off is the weight. Wand fight's heavyweights at there true weight he doesn't make them cut. Ken isn't a natural 205 or 206 or whatever they agreed on. So why don't we have tito not try and cut weight and ken not try and cut weight and just have a straight up fight at heavyweight. What's the big deal they don't have belts.
yeah if they fought at hw then ken would have a better chance of winning because he is better hw and that is what he was before he went into pro wrestling
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