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Old 10-03-2006, 07:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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BJ worked Huges good in the first two rounds. But you could tell in that third round that he didn't have much left in him. He could hardly keep his arms up. BJ got unlocky when Huges got that pin and there was no way he was going to get out of it. I' suprised McCarthy didn't stop it sooner. BJ kept moving his head, would have been better to keep it still. Erm, Weren't Hughe's comments funny?
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I can accept that. He also did not decide to take is back until he ate 2 solid elbows while underneath Matt. Matt wasn't completely willing when he did so, which is completely a tribute to BJ's skill. But if it was someone he was truly "dominating," he would have done that without effort, and the injury would not have happened.

In all sports, I've seen only less than 3% of the injuries occur under "freak" circumstances. All the other times they occur under highly competitive scenarios. This is another one of those scenarios.

I agree with what you're saying. I think it is also evidence that the injury (if it is indeed there) did not happen all on its own. That's all.
You are missing the entire point. No one cares when the injury occured ( it did happen INSIDE the octagon though ) the whole point was, Matt was outmatched and outskilled and had the injury not occured, the next 3 rounds would've went the same way as the first 2 with BJ going home with the belt
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As for thanking God, good on him. We should all thank God we have a right to have our own opinions on things and our health, not everyone in the world does.
Umm I think I'll thank my government for that thank-you
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
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not that... the fact that there has never been one instance of an athlete attributing his loss to god... only his victory. sorry buddy, but if God intervenes in our life to help you win, then he must do so to lose. technically, shouldn't these athletes be thanking god for helping the losers lose? its a ridiculous double standard that nobody seems to mind... obsurd and infantile... like any god would give a bunk over you or anyone else... or if you win the freakin' superbowl... so dumb...
Dude, I just wanna say that's the best goddamn arguement I've ever heard (no pun intended). It's so simple and obviouse and godammit, I never thought of it myself (no pun intended again). You truely have a genius mind my friend (and NO I'm NOT being sarcastic) pt447 for mod!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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You are missing the entire point. No one cares when the injury occured ( it did happen INSIDE the octagon though ) the whole point was, Matt was outmatched and outskilled and had the injury not occured, the next 3 rounds would've went the same way as the first 2 with BJ going home with the belt
I don't agree entirely. I the impetus of many people even bringing it up, is to make the argument you're making now.

But let's be completely honest: no one can say with 100% assurance that "had the injury not occured, the next 3 rounds would've went the same way as the first 2 with BJ going home with the belt." That's another "what if" type situation that people can bandy about until times end, and they will never get a answer to it.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:49 PM   #26 (permalink)
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just for the record, I have heard people that have lost, thank God.....
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:24 PM   #27 (permalink)
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As for BJ's "injury"....It was a freak accident that Matt did not directly cause. It's just something that happened when he torqued his body a certain way. And I can say, with certainty, that if it is true that BJ did separate his ribs, he would have won. Matt didn't do ANYTHING until BJ was "hurt". But, shit happens and Matt deserves the win. It was NOT an impressive win in my book, but a win's a win.

And I agree with you pt447, I just didn't word it in the way you did....If God is with everyone, then he would have been with BJ that night too right? Well, why would God decide that Matt is more worthy of a victory than BJ? Doesn't make sense. And for the people who thank god when they lose, they don't thank him that they lost, they thank him for the oppurtunity to fight and the ability to fight. Nobody thanks God for making them lose that's silly. Matt tried to attribute his win to God, when in reality, Matt deserves all the credit, but it's not a big deal to me if he wants to thank God for his abilities, but don't thank God for a win that's wacky.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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is BJ a professed Christian that openly admits that he rely's on God and prayed for help??? No, that is not how it is....God is a gentlemen, not someone that forces you in to anything....
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Their won't be a third fight until another couple of years in my opinion like last time. BJ was still fighting the same way he does like every fight, even with the broken rib. He just fights good for one or two rounds and then gasses and gets owned in the third, just like what happened against Jens Pulver, Caol Uno, St. Pierre, and then Matt Hughes.
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Old 10-04-2006, 12:47 AM   #30 (permalink)
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for what? the opportunity? that makes so much more sense...
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