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Old 10-07-2006, 12:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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After the fight with Penn I realized how bad Hughes stand up really is.
Apparently, BJ disagrees with you. Below is an excerpt from an interview with BJ Penn after UFC 63.

Interviewer:
So you just fought Matt Hughes. Could you walk us through the first round?

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I felt good, I was happy that I was defending Matt's takedowns. I could see that Matt improved his standup. I wish I tried some takedowns, but other than that I was happy with it.

Interviewer:
You say he improved his standup. How?

BJ:
He was dodging my punches well, and he had a good jab.

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Old 10-07-2006, 12:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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no doubt liddell...if matt moved up to middleweight and tits ortiz moved down i think matt would have a good chance of beatin him
no way watch the video of Tito vs Hughes in the ADCC, back in 2000...Tito beat him, and thats just grappling, so if Tito was allowed to use his huge size advantage(like 5-6 inches)he would just out box Matt than out wrestle him..Yea Hughes is a great wrestler, but Tito fights 35 pounds heavier than him, imagine wat Tito would do to those guys that Matt fights, cmon now..Hughes couldnt beat 75% of the current LWH
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Old 10-07-2006, 12:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Apparently, BJ disagrees with you. Below is an excerpt from an interview with BJ Penn after UFC 63.

Interviewer:
So you just fought Matt Hughes. Could you walk us through the first round?

BJ:
I felt good, I was happy that I was defending Matt's takedowns. I could see that Matt improved his standup. I wish I tried some takedowns, but other than that I was happy with it.

Interviewer:
You say he improved his standup. How?

BJ:
He was dodging my punches well, and he had a good jab.

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Yah his stand up might be better but it is leagues below Liddels stand up, and when I watched that fight I thought he never connected nearly as well as BJ did on him until the 3rd round when BJ was sleeping on his feet.
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Old 10-07-2006, 01:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yah his stand up might be better but it is leagues below Liddels stand up, and when I watched that fight I thought he never connected nearly as well as BJ did on him until the 3rd round when BJ was sleeping on his feet.
Oh I agree with you there. No comparison to Liddell. I just watched the BJ/Hughes II fight a ridiculous amount of times and even did slo mo to see if punches were connecting or not. IMO, BJ may have threw more punches, but he did not connect with more in the first two rounds. His TD defense was impressive, but alas, no points are awarded for that. Sorry, I know I'm getting off topic. Just a sore point for me.

Anyway, to the topic at hand. If Hughes was crazy enough to gain weight to fight Liddell, he'd probably get KO/TKOed.
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Oh I agree with you there. No comparison to Liddell. I just watched the BJ/Hughes II fight a ridiculous amount of times and even did slo mo to see if punches were connecting or not. IMO, BJ may have threw more punches, but he did not connect with more in the first two rounds. His TD defense was impressive, but alas, no points are awarded for that. Sorry, I know I'm getting off topic. Just a sore point for me.

Anyway, to the topic at hand. If Hughes was crazy enough to gain weight to fight Liddell, he'd probably get KO/TKOed.
Oh yah he would be put to sleep in first round. I will believe you that hughes landed more but all BJs punches did alot more damage then hughes punches.

Same with BJ versus GSP. St piere landed more in the end but you could tell BJs did alot more damage just by the looks of them at the end of fight.
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This is ridiculous Liddell would knock his ass out. Matt stands no chance on hell. Matt would try a take down, Chuck would punch him in the face and thats it. Im %100 positive Chuck would win this.
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Gonna play devil's advocate for a minute. Hughes walks around at ~195 from what I hear, and I imagine Lidell is normally well over the 205 limit he fights at. At 185 I would think Lidell would be in a lot worse shape than Hughes, having to drop 30-40 lbs for the fight. I think that would be enough to make it a very close fight.
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Gonna play devil's advocate for a minute. Hughes walks around at ~195 from what I hear, and I imagine Lidell is normally well over the 205 limit he fights at. At 185 I would think Lidell would be in a lot worse shape than Hughes, having to drop 30-40 lbs for the fight. I think that would be enough to make it a very close fight.

Yah but pound for pound Liddel would be the easy winner.
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:06 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Liddel would crush him, even at middleweight. With hughes having to gain weight and chuck having to sweat it off. The weight difference could be as much as 30 pounds on fight night.

Hughes couldn't take chuck down being smaller, and standing he'd last about as long as babloo did.
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