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MMA1990 10-07-2006 03:20 PM

Riggs=Overrated
 
This is kind of in responce to the Riggs vs Diego thread. Im just wondering why do so many people think Riggs will win this fight he's so overrated. He has a lot of wins but who has he foughten and beaten who's so impressive. Yes he did beat Kendall but Kendall is still evolving as a fighter and yes he did beat Nick Diaz but that fight was sort of close (although Riggs definatly got the decision). When he fights any skilled fighter with a ground game look what happens to him. All his losses in the UFC have been done by guys who easily defeated him. Heres a few guys he's lost to pathetically Ivan Salaverry via submission in 2:42 of the 1st round, Matt Hughes via submission in 3:48 of the 1st round and Mike Swick via submission in 2:19 of the 1st round, see a patern here? and of course after he losses he makes excuses "I was'nt fighting like I usally do!" Its funny how he never fights the way he should aginst a legit fighter. Diego's a very good figter and as always Riggs will say that theres no way he can losse and than he'll be submitted in the 1st round and have an excuse.Riggs is certainly not a bad fighter in fact I think he's an alright fighter but he's seriosuly overrated. This is only my opinion so dont get offanded just prove me wrong.

Grabaka 10-07-2006 03:26 PM

I haven't seen the other thread but I think Diego will take Riggs. Diego just seems to get better and better as he goes along. Riggs is a solid, young fighter. I just think this is a step back for Diego after beating Karo Parisyan, who at the time was considered the #4 WW in the world. I'm not a Diego fan, but I can't deny his skill and potential.

speedythief 10-07-2006 03:30 PM

Riggs is getting better. I like that the UFC is giving him a long leash. They project guys like him and Diaz to be eventual champions so it's nice to see them getting better with each match, earning the distinction. They could've given up on them after their first few PPV losses but as time goes on I think people are starting to see their abilities improve.

Riggs certainly isn't at the same level as the top-5 WW guys (Hughes, St. Pierre, Penn, Sanchez, Parisian) right now. That division is very deep at the top. I think the UFC expects him to get there eventually, though. He's still pretty young.

I'd like to see him fight Josh Koscheck. That would be a good test for both of those guys.

Damone 10-07-2006 03:36 PM

Riggs is inconsistent. Always has been. He fights in patterns, so he's due for a loss. Riggs has better striking, but he can't handle an aggressive fighter on top.

Mastiff_Owner 10-07-2006 04:47 PM

MMA1990-

Did you happen to see the salaverry fight? Riggs was doing a great job till he got caught with an up kick that basically knocked him out and he fell into a triangle. Ivan Salavery is a top fighter imo.

Riggs has the skill and the tools he just never seems to put it together. He has moved over to MFS and he trains with Jeremy Horn's group in Utah. He should be putting it all together in the near future and making a pretty good run. Riggs is solid and only like 23 or 24 he will be around for a long time.

That being said I hate to say but Diego wins by GnP

untaken_moniker 10-07-2006 06:00 PM

Common now guys, Riggs has a win over Herb Dean!! HAha...
Seriously though, now that Riggs has moved over to MFS and training with the likes of Horn and Hughes, i think it's only a matter of time before we see his game greatly improved. He is an exciting fighter and has great potential and I hope we see much more of him in the future. Riggs vs Sanchez though? I gotta go with Diego.

TheJame 10-07-2006 06:08 PM

His losses to Salaverry and Swick are anything but pathetic. They're two great fighters, and obviously Riggs has been prone to make mistakes (leaving his face wide open when trying to land a leaping punch on Salaverry, leaving his neck wide open after shooting on Swick), but those are two losses to two very tough fighters.

I'm not counting Riggs out. The guy has power, and he can only improve by working with the people that he does.

Storm442 10-07-2006 06:21 PM

I'm still surprised Joe went from 300lbs.to his current weight!

Seriously though, Joe is young and if his new training regimen helps him improve than he's gotta shot. Diego has his "whole game" going on better, so I assume he will win.

j.farrell 10-07-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMA1990
This is kind of in responce to the Riggs vs Diego thread. Im just wondering why do so many people think Riggs will win this fight he's so overrated. He has a lot of wins but who has he foughten and beaten who's so impressive. Yes he did beat Kendall but Kendall is still evolving as a fighter and yes he did beat Nick Diaz but that fight was sort of close (although Riggs definatly got the decision). When he fights any skilled fighter with a ground game look what happens to him. All his losses in the UFC have been done by guys who easily defeated him. Heres a few guys he's lost to pathetically Ivan Salaverry via submission in 2:42 of the 1st round, Matt Hughes via submission in 3:48 of the 1st round and Mike Swick via submission in 2:19 of the 1st round, see a patern here? and of course after he losses he makes excuses "I was'nt fighting like I usally do!" Its funny how he never fights the way he should aginst a legit fighter. Diego's a very good figter and as always Riggs will say that theres no way he can losse and than he'll be submitted in the 1st round and have an excuse.Riggs is certainly not a bad fighter in fact I think he's an alright fighter but he's seriosuly overrated. This is only my opinion so dont get offanded just prove me wrong.

well we all know who you are routing for lol...

CTFlyingKnee 10-08-2006 03:25 AM

who said riggs was rated at all? im a fan of his, the dudes an animal, and as ive said before hes got cement hands, he def. is a force, but not enough to say hed be champion. I dont think anyone has boasted about him beatin Hughes, or anyone really so why is he over rated? At anything I'd say hes under rated and overlooked. If hes on top of his game, he'd be hard to stop, hes too dedicated to what he does to be over rated. For crying out loud the guy was once a heavyweight lol but with the proper training from Billy Rush and all those guys he is in top shape.........if he can pick up afew wins, esp one over Diego, to boos his confidence then he'll be pretty successfull......You all also forget that he just recently turned 24....so hes got a LONG career ahead of him......dont sell him short just yet


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