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Old 04-10-2008, 01:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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UFC 85: BEDLAM
Date: 6/7/2008
Event Type: International Event
Location: The O2 Arena (London, England)


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Main Card Bouts:


[43-6-0] Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves [18-4-0]

[10-3-1] Fabricio Werdum vs. Brandon Vera [8-1-0]

[15-1-0] Michael Bisping vs. Jason Day [17-5-0]

[14-3-0] Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick [11-2-0]

[26-7-2] Nate Marquardt vs. Thales Leites [12-1-0]


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Preliminary Bouts:


[15-6-0] Jorge Rivera vs. Martin Kampmann [15-2-0]

[13-1-0] Matt Wiman vs. Thiago Tavares [13-1-0]

[23-7-0] Jason Lambert vs. Luiz Cane [8-1-0]

[14-8-0] Roan Carneiro vs. Kevin Burns [4-1-0]

[12-9-0] Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor [8-3-1]

[6-4-0] Antoni Hardonk vs. Neil Wain [4-0-0]


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Former two-time UFC Welterweight Champion MATT HUGHES begins his run for an unprecedented third title against a young gun eager to take his place near the top of the 170-pound ladder, in Brazilian slugger THIAGO "PITBULL" ALVES. Plus, Michael "The Count" Bisping, Brandon "The Truth" Vera, Fabricio "Vai Cavalo" Werdum, Mike "Quick" Swick, Marcus "The Irish Hand Grenade" Davis are all in action as well!

UFC 85: BEDLAM - Saturday, June 7, live from the O2 Arena in London, England, on pay-per-view in the USA, and on Setanta Sports in the United Kingdom.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Enough reason for me to buy this puppy. So stoked to see how he deals with another powerhouse.

I also get to see Liddell, Werdum, Vera, Marquardt, Leities, Davis and Swick. Sickness.
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Rashad's going to shock the UK.
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Damn, even the pre-lims look delicious. I can't wait for this card, and I like Rashad in the main event. He's getting to be underrated, has some solid striking, is intelligent and trains with a great camp. I think he'll be ready. It won't be easy, since the only guy who treated Liddell like garbage was Rampage, but I see Rashad winning. Hell, even Jardine had to work for his victory.

Werdum vs Vera is going to be interesting stuff. I like Werdum, maybe by submission if he actually sets up his takedowns.

Kampmann's back, hellz yes, and he's facing a tough guy. This will be a fun fight. I can see either guy winning, but I like Kampy here.

Davis vs Swick will be a stand-up battle, and of course, I'm taking Marcus Davis. His chin is durable and his stand-up is better.

Marquardt vs Leites will show me where Thales is at right now. if he does really well, then he's ready for the next step. If he loses, which very well could happen, then he still needs work. Marquardt's a studly man, so I see this being competitive.

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Good card, I'll take Liddell in the main event. This is just a horrible matchup for Rashad, his standup has improved but it hasn't been tested against a guy like Liddell. His takedowns are poor compared to Liddells sprawl so I don't see Rashad putting him on his back. Chuck has a significant reach advantage as well which may frustrate Evans and make his shots worse and make him struggle even more during the exchanges. I just don't see where Evans may have an advantage during this fight. Liddells usual disadvantage is that his conditioning isn't that great but in this match, I don't see him having a problem in that area due to Rashads recent performances. His conditioning isn't great either.

I'm looking forward to Swick vs. Davis, Swick may have a nice reach advantage but I'd say Marcus has the better hands and chin. Swick has never shown a great chin before and it doesn't take much for Marcus to knock you out. He's been a roll lately and I don't think Swick will be the man to stop him.
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This card is shaping up nicely, even though it pains me to think Shogun was supposed to be in it. Either way, shaping up nicely. I personally can't wait to see Rashad eat some loopin liddels, and I think Werdum is gonna handle Vera! Nothing against Vera, but I think Werdum will fight a smart fight and get a sub second round.
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"The Irish Hand Grenade" is going to destroy Swick. I'm going to love that. Davis = MUCH better combos, uses angles better, has A LOT more power. If he touches Swick on the jaw, expect a finish that looks reminiscent to his destruction of Liaudin.

I like my boy Nate "The Great" via UD over Thales. Like DrewMone said, this fight will gauge where Leites is on the 185 lb. map right now in his career.

Wiman & Tavares has the possibility to be FOTN. I personally...like Matt in that bout.

Taylor versus Jess "The Joker" has SLUGFEST written all over it. That's going to be tremendous as well. I see Taylor out-striking Liaudin for a round & 1/2, then tagging Jess on the button, getting him outta there.

Of course, Kampmann is FINALLY BACK, and he's got a good test in "El Conquistador." Should be pretty entertaining for 2 rounds I'll say, then Martin will submit Jorge with something flashy.

The Werdum we saw versus 'Zaga. Yeah, if he shows up in the fight with Vera, we could see Brandon suffer his 2nd loss in a row. FabWerdum's striking is improving rapidly, and he's quietly dangerous on the feet. We know how good Vera's striking is...but will he push the pace? He sure didn't again Tim-may. We'll see how it goes.

My opinion on the main event almost EXACTLY mirrors Nick_V03's thoughts on Chuckles vs. Sugar. For details, read his post. Regardless, I see Liddell winning via 2nd round G-n-P stoppage (ala the ending of his 2nd fight with Ortiz).

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"The Irish Hand Grenade" is going to destroy Swick. I'm going to love that. Davis = MUCH better combos, uses angles better, has A LOT more power. If he touches Swick on the jaw, expect a finish that looks reminiscent to his destruction of Liaudin.
I haven't made up my mind about that fight but do you think if Swick loses he will think about dropping down?
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Are you on glue?? rashad doesnt have the power in his hands to punch out liddell.. doesnt have the take downs to take him down or the chin to withstand liddells punching power.. rashad will not see the third round of this fight.. he'll be lucky to see 2nd..
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