RageInDaCage

yea alright buddy didnt gsp bang on hughes a couple times now that i checked o...he did my bad guy

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Chrisl972

Well if that's the case then it's a tie for greatest WW of all time. Dennis Hallman has two wins over Hughes as well.

I'm not saying that GSP isn't great, but he hasn't reached the "Greatest WW of all time" stauts yet. That takes years of being on top, not holding the title and lossing it, just to gain it back. Hughes is a time tested WW, GSP isn't...yet.

And to you're previous post, GSP finished Sherk and wasn't able to finish Penn. The reason Penn got TKOed by Hughes had nothing to do with his chin.

There's a case to be made that both guys have a GREAT chin, I just see BJ's is better, and for you to make statments like you did, only makes you look like you have some learning needed.

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iSHACKABUKU

Sherk cant beat BJ in this match, only BJ can beat BJ. What i mean by this is that BJ is better in almost all aspects of this match up. He definitly falls short in cardio, which is where he can beat himself.

Im by no means ruling Sherk out and the guy is one of the toughest opponents BJ has fought yet.

iSHACKABUKU

I bet that happens often doesn it? lol

bbjd7

When I bring up JZ's strength it has to do with the fact he can maul guys. He destroyed Shaolin Riberio by just ragdolling him around and tossing him to the ground. JZ has much better striking and pure BJJ than Hughes does. It's a very different match up.

JZ is a lot like GSP. just shorter. He would give BJ fits.

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AndyHI

"way stronger"? I must disagree with you there. JZ vs Aoki #2 did u see that fight? JZ wasn't mauling Aoki, nor was he picking Aoki up and slamming him allover the place. JZ isn't the way you make it sound is like JZ is superhuman...cuz BJ Penn is one f'ing strong LW!

I must admit though, i partially agree with you on the outcome of the fight...except for the part of JZ winning. I see BJ dominating the standup, and controlling JZ on the ground...and busting JZ's nose(the only part thats similar to the Penn/GSP fight).

rufio.e0

If those two stood side-by-side I think the physically stronger fighter would be much less of an argument (JZ). Penn isn't a terribly strong lightweight. His dominance has never had anything to do with his strength. BJ has quick hands, good hips/balance, and slick jitz... but strength doesn't generally factor in his favor. Look at how Hughes just pinned him in that crucifix when he got the TKO win... a physically stronger person would have been able to get his hand out.

All that being said, I think Penn wins over JZ. JZ does present a stylistic problem for BJ with his takedowns and jitz defense. I just think BJ has the well-roundedness (i'm making up words) to take home the win.

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AndyHI

I see Sherk running at BJ and catching an uppercut to the chin. Lights out Sean Sherk!

BJ Penn can beat Sherk in a lot of ways...not just by catching a submission. If they stand and bang, I see Sherk getting mauled by BJ's hands. BJ has got better striking technique, and more power than Sherk...not to mention BJ has the reach advantage too.

deanmzi

This will be one interesting match up. Sherk will have the advantage in cardio and he knows it. Sherk knows if this goes to the 5th round he will finish the fight stronger and have the advantage. How Penn will combat Sherk's energy? Most everyone expects this fight to be mostly a ground battle, but really this may not go to the ground in the first 5-7 minutes. I think Penn would be happy to stand with Sherk. Will Sherk try a GSP vs Serr/Kos and immediately go for the takedown? It will be a battle but I think Sherk could pull it out by trying to neutrilze Penn until rounds 4-5.

Damone

I definitely don't think JZ's way stronger than BJ, because BJ's pretty damn strong, but JZ vs BJ would be an excellent fight, and I'd go with JZ, since I think JZ could survive the 2 round onslaught and turn it up. Of course, it'd have to be 5 rounds.

Aoki has great MMA BJJ, and he couldn't catch JZ. That says something about JZ's sub defense. He was close to subbing him, but he didn't.