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Old 10-12-2006, 10:54 PM   #101 (permalink)
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yeah okay buddy, tito may be 100% right now, or at least when hes winning but as soon as he starts to loose suddenly he has knee problems, and thats gonna be the typeof shit you'll hear when him and liddell fight, liddell will knock him out, the last fight tito coudlnt even block chucks punches, and u think tito would ground and pound sobral like he did shamrock? sobral would slap on a submission and tap tito out, unlike shamrock, sobral knows other moves other than the ankle lock and knee bar, not taking anything away from ken.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:11 AM   #102 (permalink)
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I think Tito will beat Chuck this time around for one he is focused and he will use that to regain the title. The Tito era will restart when he beats Chuck mark my words.
How can you have this Chuck Liddell avatar and yet know nothing about his style of fighting. What some people keep forgetting is that Chuck hasn't always been a striker, his wrestling skills were extraordinary in college, this is why he is so hard to take down. Chuck can fight on the ground, but he knows that no one, I mean no one, can take blows from his heavy hands and still function normally. Watch how he lures in grapplers and so called submission masters. They end up trying to throw with him, because they know that if they shoot on him and miss or fail to knock him off balance he has a better than normal chance to knock them out. He is one of the most tactical fighters in the sport. He also trains specifically for each fighter he encounters. I am very impressed with Tito (Mostly with his change in attitude towards his fellow fighters) and his ground and pound is one of the best in the UFC, but I just don't think he is ready for Chuck yet.
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:43 AM   #103 (permalink)
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yeah okay buddy, tito may be 100% right now, or at least when hes winning but as soon as he starts to loose suddenly he has knee problems, and thats gonna be the typeof shit you'll hear when him and liddell fight, liddell will knock him out, the last fight tito coudlnt even block chucks punches, and u think tito would ground and pound sobral like he did shamrock? sobral would slap on a submission and tap tito out, unlike shamrock, sobral knows other moves other than the ankle lock and knee bar, not taking anything away from ken.
Yes, I know a lot about Renato, do you know anything about Tito? If you did you would know he is a very strong LHW with excellent sub defense, which is why Tito would control Babalu on the ground and pound him with elbows from the guard like every body else. He doesn’t just use his knee as an excuse he had to have surgery on his ACL, what is so hard to understand about an athlete having an injury? I don’t know why every one is counting Tito out, Chuck is not unbeatable and I truly believe Tito will prove that in December. Don’t get me wrong Chuck is a great fighter, without a doubt one of the best ever but like I said he is not unbeatable.

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Old 10-13-2006, 04:11 PM   #104 (permalink)
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yeah okay buddy, tito may be 100% right now, or at least when hes winning but as soon as he starts to loose suddenly he has knee problems, and thats gonna be the typeof shit you'll hear when him and liddell fight, liddell will knock him out, the last fight tito coudlnt even block chucks punches, and u think tito would ground and pound sobral like he did shamrock? sobral would slap on a submission and tap tito out, unlike shamrock, sobral knows other moves other than the ankle lock and knee bar, not taking anything away from ken.
tito never made any injury excuses for any of his four losses the only time he ever gave an injury excuse was when he WON agaisnt forrest and he actaully wasnt at 100% dont make it seem like hes a lil ***** that makes all these injury excuses
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:31 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Damn these few Tito fans are relentless even when outnumbered by so many. Ill give yall props for that at least. But seriously now, I know thats yalls like favorite fighter and ur stickin with him but even if he was my favorite fighter I wouldnt go as far as saying that he is gonna win. I swear some of yall Tito fans(not all) would still stand by Tito and say he is gonna win if he was to fight Fedor. I'll try to be a lil nicer then before.... Tito has a chance of winning but there is always a chance in most fights. This just happens to be a small chance this time and maybe someday reality will set in and you'll except that. How can Tito fans think hes on the level of a Chuck Liddel, a Wanderlei Silva or a Shogun Rua. I just think its ludacris, I guess I just dont get it haha. Ever heard that old saying about not putting all ur eggs in 1 basket?? Just a little advice... dont hold ur breath or put down too much money on a fight that is like 3/4 chance of Chuck winning and 1/4(being generous) chance of Tito winning.
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Old 10-13-2006, 04:43 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Because he is a scrub. His record is 7-4. Thats almost as many loses as wins. A lot of those wins are also against cans like pro wrestler Naoya Ogawa or UFC rejects/can Tank Abbott.

He is just another example of the Japanese cans that the Pride fighters use to pad their records with.


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Wow,and STILL nobody calls him on this???? Yoshida is a world champion judo fighter, and he has beaten more than one tough opponent in his career. While he isn't Chuck Liddell, he is certainly a tough opponent for anyone who would be willing to fight him. Your lack of knowledge & disrespect for the level of skill that is inherent in some of the Pride fighters tells me you probably suffer from an all too common disease known as "TuF Noobitis".
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Yes, I know a lot about Rento, do you know anything about Tito? If you did you would know he is a very strong LHW with excellent sub defense, which is why Tito would control Babalu on the ground and pound him with elbows from the guard like every body else. He doesn’t just use his knee as an excuse he had to have surgery on his ACL, what is so hard to understand about an athlete having an injury? I don’t know why every one is counting Tito out, Chuck is not unbeatable and I truly believe Tito will prove that in December. Don’t get me wrong Chuck is a great fighter, without a doubt one of the best ever but like I said he is not unbeatable.
It seems like everyone who loses a big bout or puts up a poor performance these days says they hurt their knee. Meh, whatever.

If you really knew anything about Babalu you would know that he was on the Brazilian National Wrestling Team, and that his name is Renato, not Rento.
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Wow,and STILL nobody calls him on this???? Yoshida is a world champion judo fighter, and he has beaten more than one tough opponent in his career. While he isn't Chuck Liddell, he is certainly a tough opponent for anyone who would be willing to fight him. Your lack of knowledge & disrespect for the level of skill that is inherent in some of the Pride fighters tells me you probably suffer from an all too common disease known as "TuF Noobitis".

Fine, he is a great Judo fighter. But judo is not MMA. His "MMA" record sof 7-5shows him to be a very mediocre fighter at best.


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Fine, he is a great Judo fighter. But judo is not MMA. His "MMA" record sof 7-5shows him to be a very mediocre fighter at best.


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Yeah, I guess anyone who loses to Cro Cop and Silva (both by decision, one of which was a split decision) twice is really mediocre. Rulon Gardner was the current Olympic Grecko Wrestling Gold Medalist when Yoshida lost to him.

And yeah, let's completely ignore the fact he beat Don Frye (before Don started to lose it), Tank Abbott, and Mark Hunt. All 3 of them are extremely dangerous fighters, albeit not the creme de la creme.

Yeah, easy guy to dismiss.
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LOL I was waiting till I got done reading the rest of the thread to see if anyone did
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