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I'm sorry I don't agree with you for the simple fact that all the guys you just named that weren't able beat standing Wanderlei do not have the counter punching ability that Chuck has. Chuck is more than capable of knocking Wanderlei out with one of those backpeddling counter right hands. Wanderlei throws alot of reaching hooks and anyone who knows boxing knows that a quick and powerful straight right hand can get through a wide hook and do some serious damage especially coming form Chuck.
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I'm guessing you missed the part where I said Mark Hunt & Mirko Cro Cop couldn't knock Wanderlei out? That is the only explaination I have for your insistance that Chuck would KO Silva. Or maybe you think Chuck hits harder than Cro Cop or Hunt?
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Chuck also knocked out Kevin Randleman which Cro Cop wasn't able to do. He also knocked out Randy Couture who had never been knocked out despite taking hits from some of biggest and hardest hitters in MMA.

Silva has been knocked out before by fighters with less punching power than Chuck.. If Chuck hits him with a good shot he will go out. Its that simple. He is not Superman.


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Nobody said he is superman, but he is no idiot either. I think you guys give Liddell way too much credit. Who has he beaten other than Babalu? An over the hill Couture? Tito "I quit if I can't take you down" Ortiz? There is just a little too much UFC nuthugging going on here for this to be realistic.

Chuck's last loss came to Rampage, and while it was more than a couple years ago, Rampage lost to Silva right after that and almost lost to Arona as well if not for a miracle powerbomb/Headbutt. Now, while that does not say how one fighter will do against another it does give you an idea of what kind of competition these guys have been facing. I mean Sobral was talked about as the greatest thing in LHW since sliced bread, but he is a lower top 10 in Pride's LHW division, AT BEST.

You gotta keep things in prespective here. I am a HUGE UFC fan, but you can't let your little hard ons determine what is real. What is real is that Wanderlei has constantly fought top 10 LHW fighters for years & still remains the champion, whereas Chuck has feasted on inferior opponents for much of his time in the UFC over the last few years.
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Nobody said he is superman, but he is no idiot either. I think you guys give Liddell way too much credit. Who has he beaten other than Babalu? An over the hill Couture? Tito "I quit if I can't take you down" Ortiz? There is just a little too much UFC nuthugging going on here for this to be realistic.

Chuck's last loss came to Rampage, and while it was more than a couple years ago, Rampage lost to Silva right after that and almost lost to Arona as well if not for a miracle powerbomb/Headbutt. Now, while that does not say how one fighter will do against another it does give you an idea of what kind of competition these guys have been facing. I mean Sobral was talked about as the greatest thing in LHW since sliced bread, but he is a lower top 10 in Pride's LHW division, AT BEST.

You gotta keep things in prespective here. I am a HUGE UFC fan, but you can't let your little hard ons determine what is real. What is real is that Wanderlei has constantly fought top 10 LHW fighters for years & still remains the champion, whereas Chuck has feasted on inferior opponents for much of his time in the UFC over the last few years.
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We can go back and forth on this all night.


"Couture over the hill and inferior?"

He had just won the title for the second time two shows previous from a fighter who demolished Silva in less than a minute (Belfort). He had reached his career peak like a year or two previous. He was still at the top.

"Tito "I quit if I can't take you down" Ortiz?"

And yet Silva couldn't take the title from him. So what does that say about Silva.

See what I mean? We can go back and forth forever.


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how can u say that chucks cardio will weaken, tito will be the weaker one when hes eaten all those punches and kicks, tito wont win, its nearly impossible, couture couldnt even hold chuck down, theres no way that tito could.tito has no chance, and if he does win, someone like babalu or evans will come and take the belt from him.
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if silva and liddell did fight, they would make sure that it was ufc and not pride so silva couldnt stomp liddell, wouldnt matter though, liddells never had anyone come at him like silva would, silvas an animal
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chuck could never knock silva out, he doesnt hit that hard, he just catches people, silva wouldnt let him catch him, silva is quick, and extremely tough
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He doesn't hit that hard.

Ask Babalu, Randleman, Couture, Horn, White, Ortiz, Belfort, ect how hard he hits.

Many of those guy's had never been knocked out before until Liddell hit them.


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