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Tito Still Not Ready For Liddell

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#1 ·
I know that Tito looked great last night, but there is no way that a fight with Liddell would take the same path. As good as Tito looked, I still say he's no match for Liddell.
 
#180 ·
masterdrummer11 said:
Also, do you not like watching MMA fights? Apparently you don't if you think a Sobral vs Liddell fight would be stupid. Sorry, but that's my, and only my opinion. Please post replies.

lol. Obviously I like watching MMA fights, but seeing Chuck TKO people is only going to be fun to watch for so long.
I do think it would be stupid, right now at least, Like i said earlier, maybe down the road.
 
#185 ·
I think Tito has a good chance. I think he's most likely a lot stronger than when he fought Chuck or Randy last time. Last time he fought Chuck he chose to stand to make a statement. People said he was affraid to trade with Chuck, he wanted to prove he wasnt affraid to trade with Chuck, regardless if he looses. Now that he knows standing with Chuck is a bad idea, he'll go for the take down, something he didnt really do during their last fight.
 
#186 ·
MetalMunkey said:
You guys are crazy, Tito's gonna get smashed. When he loses I would like to see him face Babalu.
After Tito takes the belt from Chuck I hope Renato works his way back up to a title shot so that Tito can prove just how good his sub defense is, control Renato on the ground and smash him with elbows from the guard.
 
#187 ·
TLB said:
After Tito takes the belt from Chuck I hope Renato works his way back up to a title shot so that Tito can prove just how good his sub defense is, control Renato on the ground and smash him with elbows from the guard.

I say Tito has a 45% chance of getting by Chuck. If he does and fought Renato, I dont think he'll be able to smash Renato as you say. I think he'd have a lot of trouble with Sobral on the ground.
 
#190 ·
Matt_Serra_Fan said:
I think Chuck and Renato would both win against Tito. Bottom line no one can beat Renato on the ground in his weight class. *Cough*Anderson Silva*Cough*
Tito is a very strong LHW and has great sub defense, both of them like to go to the ground and Tito would control Renato from the guard and win the fight. As far as Chuck goes we will all see what Tito is still capable of in December when he takes the belt.
 
#192 ·
Tito is a great b fighter and a average A fighter just like what tito said about Sobral. Tito was describing himself as well. Tito has a good startegy if you wanna call it that but it will simply not work against Chuck. Tito barely got through his fight with Griffin. I would like to see Babalu fight Tito just to show him where he stands with his skills. In mma you cannot just count any fighter out no matter how bad they are or how good they think they are b/c every fighter has punchers chance but odds favor chuck alot more then they favor tito if it was simply counted on a punchers chance.
 
#193 ·
BigBanda said:
Bro you have got to e a frickin idiot thinking Silva is some can. Pride LHW division is superior to UFC's. Fujita, Yoshida, Hendo, Sakuraba, Arona, Jackson, Nakamura.... these are all nobodies that Silva beat??? haha woooow, that was plain moronic. You need to venture out more and find that there is more beyond just The Ultimate Fighter Series. Everyone is now dumber for reading your post.
First, Fujita, Yoshida, and Hendo are nobodies.(not for pride fans, but to the rest of the mma world) Sakuraba is one deminsional. Arona, Jackson, and maybe Nakamura are the only good ones on that list of yours. Silva is so incredibly over-rated, so is Fedor. Pride puts cans in front of them 99% of the time, and they are the greatest? I say bullshit! Also if Pride's LHW division is superior to the UFC's then why is Chuck Liddell ranked at the #1 in the world at LHW? If Pride's LHW division was so much better, don't you think that Vanderlei would be at the top of that list for beating all those "superior" fighters? Chuck is ranked #1 for a reason. Vanderlei Silva is far too sloppy and weak chinned to compete with Chuck or Tito. The fact remains that Vanderlei's list of opponents is slam packed with NOBODIES, and bunch of little japanese guys that are fighting for pride ( not PFC, actuall pride) MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More


And in response to your next post, what does your age have to do with anything? what did I assume?
 
#194 ·
*IceMAn* said:
Tito is a great b fighter and a average A fighter just like what tito said about Sobral. Tito was describing himself as well. Tito has a good startegy if you wanna call it that but it will simply not work against Chuck. Tito barely got through his fight with Griffin. I would like to see Babalu fight Tito just to show him where he stands with his skills. In mma you cannot just count any fighter out no matter how bad they are or how good they think they are b/c every fighter has punchers chance but odds favor chuck alot more then they favor tito if it was simply counted on a punchers chance.
Tito was injured when he fought Forest so you can’t take one bad fight even though he completely dominated the 1st round and won the fight, you shouldn’t use that to compare to another fight with a guy who has been fighting for 10 years. Tito at 100% is capable of beating any one in his weight class, just like Liddell and Hughes he has the same game plan for every fight and it is a very affective game plan.
 
#195 ·
Cbingham said:
First, Fujita, Yoshida, and Hendo are nobodies.(not for pride fans, but to the rest of the mma world) Sakuraba is one deminsional. Arona, Jackson, and maybe Nakamura are the only good ones on that list of yours. Silva is so incredibly over-rated, so is Fedor. Pride puts cans in front of them 99% of the time, and they are the greatest? I say bullshit! Also if Pride's LHW division is superior to the UFC's then why is Chuck Liddell ranked at the #1 in the world at LHW? If Pride's LHW division was so much better, don't you think that Vanderlei would be at the top of that list for beating all those "superior" fighters? Chuck is ranked #1 for a reason. Vanderlei Silva is far too sloppy and weak chinned to compete with Chuck or Tito. The fact remains that Vanderlei's list of opponents is slam packed with NOBODIES, and bunch of little japanese guys that are fighting for pride ( not PFC, actuall pride) MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More


And in response to your next post, what does your age have to do with anything? what did I assume?
Bro I still stand by my statement. You clearly lack knowledge regarding Silva if you think hes just some can. Your best defense is that Tito beat Silva many years ago when they were both still in learning stages. So if I say that Rampage beat Chuck then Silva beat Rampage over 3 years ago is that still relevant??? Hell NO!! Ur statements are ridiculous especially saying that Fedor is overrated as well. Are you seriously that ignorant?!? I guess next you are gonna say that CroCop is as well since he's lost to Fedor. Please do some research next time and try not to make urself seem like such an assclown. Once again we are all a little bit dumber from your posts. Anyways this post is about Chuck vs Tito. I think after 17 pages that most all has been said and everyone has picked their fighters. I still say that it is going to be very hard for Tito to take down Chuck seeing as Chuck as great takedown defense. If Tito does take him down then it's going to be a challenge in itself to keep Chuck on the ground as we all know he stands right back up somehow.
 
#196 ·
BigBanda said:
Bro I still stand by my statement. You clearly lack knowledge regarding Silva if you think hes just some can. Your best defense is that Tito beat Silva many years ago when they were both still in learning stages. So if I say that Rampage beat Chuck then Silva beat Rampage over 3 years ago is that still relevant??? Hell NO!! Ur statements are ridiculous especially saying that Fedor is overrated as well. Are you seriously that ignorant?!? I guess next you are gonna say that CroCop is as well since he's lost to Fedor. Please do some research next time and try not to make urself seem like such an assclown. Once again we are all a little bit dumber from your posts. Anyways this post is about Chuck vs Tito. I think after 17 pages that most all has been said and everyone has picked their fighters. I still say that it is going to be very hard for Tito to take down Chuck seeing as Chuck as great takedown defense. If Tito does take him down then it's going to be a challenge in itself to keep Chuck on the ground as we all know he stands right back up somehow.
You are the one that looks like a dumbass! Did you even read his entire post? His best argument isn’t that Silva was beat by Tito, his main argument is that his record is padded with cans. And once again you look like the idiot for calling him a bunch of names instead of bringing some kind of legitimate argument to the thread other than just saying Pride is great and Silva is the best
 
#197 ·
TLB said:
Tito was injured when he fought Forest so you can’t take one bad fight even though he completely dominated the 1st round and won the fight, you shouldn’t use that to compare to another fight with a guy who has been fighting for 10 years. Tito at 100% is capable of beating any one in his weight class, just like Liddell and Hughes he has the same game plan for every fight and it is a very affective game plan.
What do you think about Couture having such a hard time taking down Chuck in the last 2 fights. Couture is an all american wrestler who could of wrestled at the Olympics. I just dont see Tito taking down Chuck very easily like some are thinking. Don't look for this to be a walk in the park for either sides. Both Chuck and Tito arent going to be stupid enough to under estimate eachother. It's going to be a challenge for the underdog(Tito) to get Chuck onthe ground and keep him there. Personally I dont see this happening. Ur thoughts TLB??(not rude thoughts lol)
 
#198 ·
BigBanda said:
What do you think about Couture having such a hard time taking down Chuck in the last 2 fights. Couture is an all american wrestler who could of wrestled at the Olympics. I just dont see Tito taking down Chuck very easily like some are thinking. Don't look for this to be a walk in the park for either sides. Both Chuck and Tito arent going to be stupid enough to under estimate eachother. It's going to be a challenge for the underdog(Tito) to get Chuck onthe ground and keep him there. Personally I dont see this happening. Ur thoughts TLB??(not rude thoughts lol)
Well, I recently watched the 2nd Liddell, Couture fight and there was about 3 times Randy would have gotten the take down if Chuck would not have grabbed the fence. I think Tito has a much better chance than most people think because he is not going to just stand with Chuck like last time, I really think this fight will be a war with Chuck landing some good shots and Tito getting some good take downs and applying ground and pound from the guard. I have said it many times and I will stand by it, I think Tito will win this fight.
 
#199 ·
TLB said:
You are the one that looks like a dumbass! Did you even read his entire post? His best argument isn’t that Silva was beat by Tito, his main argument is that his record is padded with cans. And once again you look like the idiot for calling him a bunch of names instead of bringing some kind of legitimate argument to the thread other than just saying Pride is great and Silva is the best
Haha clearly you are not reading from when this started. It started cause he thins Silva is some can that is overrated then went as far as to say so is Fedor! How the hell does anyone that follows MMA going to come to that conclusion?!?! It's just ludicrous. Stopp getting on Cbinghams nuts anyways, he was having a debate with me. Damn did i say anything to you?!? BTW, I never said Silva is the best, he's not even my fav fighter jackass lol. I dont even follow Pride as much as UFC but I know fighters and their history, I'm not gonna be 1 sided just cause I favor somebody or something more!

BTW.. you had the rudeness coming to you when you started bashing me, that was childish considering it wasnt your argument to begin with.
 
#200 ·
BigBanda said:
Haha clearly you are not reading from when this started. It started cause he thins Silva is some can that is overrated then went as far as to say so is Fedor! How the hell does anyone that follows MMA going to come to that conclusion?!?! It's just ludicrous. Stopp getting on Cbinghams nuts anyways, he was having a debate with me. Damn did i say anything to you?!? BTW, I never said Silva is the best, he's not even my fav fighter jackass lol. I dont even follow Pride as much as UFC but I know fighters and their history, I'm not gonna be 1 sided just cause I favor somebody or something more!

Ok who said Fedor was over rated? lol
 
#201 ·
BigBanda said:
Haha clearly you are not reading from when this started. It started cause he thins Silva is some can that is overrated then went as far as to say so is Fedor! How the hell does anyone that follows MMA going to come to that conclusion?!?! It's just ludicrous. Stopp getting on Cbinghams nuts anyways, he was having a debate with me. Damn did i say anything to you?!? BTW, I never said Silva is the best, he's not even my fav fighter jackass lol. I dont even follow Pride as much as UFC but I know fighters and their history, I'm not gonna be 1 sided just cause I favor somebody or something more!

BTW.. you had the rudeness coming to you when you started bashing me, that was childish considering it wasnt your argument to begin with.
Once again there you go with the name calling, and yes I have been reading this from the beginning, that is exactly what my post is about. You said his best argument is that Silva lost to Tito and that wasn’t the case so I was trying to explain that to you. It is obvious that you and Cbingham were having a debate, does that mean no one else can comment? No, it doesn’t. Cbingham is one of my good friend’s and I’m not going to let some one call him an “assclown” for no good reason. I never said that Silva was your favorite fighter so don’t say that I did and then call me a jackass for it, once again you are making yourself look less intelligent by just throwing names out there and not having a good argument yet you say people are dumber after reading the post of someone who is trying to debate against you. Come on man, how are you calling me childish for jumping into a debate, which I have every right to do when you are calling people “assclowns”. And I can handle the “rudeness” its just a MMA forum, I really don’t take anything to personal on here and I hope you don’t either. I mean yeah, I don’t like people calling me names or my friends but at the end of the day I’ll be all right!
 
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