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Old 10-11-2006, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Shamrock at his Prime

So...I'll say as always...fairly new to UFC (a year now). So how does Ken fair in his Prime against Tito today??? How would that fight go down?
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No question, Ken at his prime and natural weight would kill Ortiz.

Kens knees are shot now so he is not able to shoot and get leg locks like he used to but back then he was an animal. Plus throw in his stand up and Tito wouldn't have stood a chance.


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Old 10-12-2006, 01:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No question, Ken at his prime and natural weight would kill Ortiz.

Kens knees are shot now so he is not able to shoot and get leg locks like he used to but back then he was an animal. Plus throw in his stand up and Tito wouldn't have stood a chance.


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Old 10-12-2006, 06:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Shamrock would have killed tito the reason tito beats him now is cos of a few factors ken is old and past his prime. He is fighting 205 if they fought today at heavyweight ken would own tito reason why cos tito wouldnt have the strengh advantage enymore ken would overwelm tito
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I wont say that Ken would have the strength advantage today.

Or even a couple years ago.


If you put Ken Shamrock, the same one that fought Don Frye, minus the ACL tear, then he would have beaten Tito Ortiz.

His strength was huge, as he was able to control guys like Kimo and Severn, and paritally Frye.

Striking is better, so are his takedowns.

BUt hell, we will never know. Let stop comparing the old vs the new, its not meant to be that way.
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I wont say that Ken would have the strength advantage today.

Or even a couple years ago.


If you put Ken Shamrock, the same one that fought Don Frye, minus the ACL tear, then he would have beaten Tito Ortiz.

His strength was huge, as he was able to control guys like Kimo and Severn, and paritally Frye.

Striking is better, so are his takedowns.

BUt hell, we will never know. Let stop comparing the old vs the new, its not meant to be that way.
I agree can we all please move on shamrock as retired can we let him and tito rest now its dead and gone the ufc is very exiting at the moment with every event better than the last lets stop comparing tito to shamrock tito will never do for th sport that shamrock has shamrock is the most desurving hall of famer anyone who knows enything about the sport knows that lets leave it at that
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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mot a lot of shit mma has evolved so much since ken was a contenderw would be a harder fight but tito would still win due to ground and pound
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I agree can we all please move on shamrock as retired can we let him and tito rest now its dead and gone the ufc is very exiting at the moment with every event better than the last lets stop comparing tito to shamrock tito will never do for th sport that shamrock has shamrock is the most desurving hall of famer anyone who knows enything about the sport knows that lets leave it at that
Royce is the most deserving hall of famer then Randy. I dont wanna argue about this anymore but Ill just say I think Tito would beat Ken in his prime.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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ken would beat down tito if ken would have just waited to get his knee operated on before fighting tito he would have won. I mean he almost ko ed tito even with a torn acl.the reason ken lost was the same reason that randy lost to chuk randy and ken are better fighters but when you get old you are knocked out more and you can not take as much punisment. an yong ken could beat tito any day
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I'm waiting for a "Ken Shamrock In His Prime vs Fedor" topic. The sheer insanity of it all may be entertaining.
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