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**slapshot** · 05-13-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by J.P.

"Complete moron" is a streach. You are implying that because B.J. was not victorious in their first confrontation that he has no chance.

If such is the case than GSP should have not stood a chance against Hughes or Serra the second time around. Because he lost to both of those guys.

Thats not what I said I said the gap in skill is even larger now than in there last fight so the odds of a BJ win are much less.

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Originally Posted by J.P.

I understand that you don't want to dispute the steroid topic. Because you can not dispute the fact that he tested positive.

Ill tell the truth Im a simi-lazy poster and its quite a in depth topic you cant just touch on it, I think (Im not sure) the thread I referenced you to is over 100 pages long and bottom line its not my responsibility to teach you about what levels of said chemical in a body mean in piss tests so think what you want....

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Originally Posted by J.P.

I'm amused to see that in your opinion only GSP can "step up his game".

Stepping up is one thing, GSP has evolved BJ Pen has not.

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Originally Posted by J.P.

The bottom line is that GSP is prone to defeat just like any other fighter, he's been subbed and TKOed.

Prone? LOL no he's not actually hes more prone to victory.

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Originally Posted by J.P.

Him and B.J. are both 1-1 against Matt Hughes.

B.J. is 1-0 against Serra
GSP is 1-1 against Serra

B.J. is the champ just like GSP. So for you to convince yourself that today B.J. could not fight at a competitive level against GSP tells me that you're betting with your heart, not your head.

Not really Im not that big of a GSP fan and I dont hate BJ I just think of the two fighters (who are both overrated IMO) BJ is the guy with the least skill but hes still a good fighter.

**Goat Man** · 05-13-2008, 07:01 PM

* BJ Penn of yesteryear is essentially the BJ Penn of today. Great fighter, but no real evidence of improvement

* The GSP of a couple of years ago is now a significantly enhanced and improved fighter, as evidenced by his most recent dominating victories.

Can GSP lose? Sure. Anything is possible. We've all seen that happen to great fighters. How much of a chance is there that BJ Penn could submit or otherwise win over GSP now or in the near future? Immeasurably small.

I, for one, would bet a huge amount of of money against Penn in that fight. And it definitely wouldn't be betting with my heart.

**J.P.** · 05-13-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slapshot

Thats not what I said I said the gap in skill is even larger now than in there last fight so the odds of a BJ win are much less.

Ill tell the truth Im a simi-lazy poster and its quite a in depth topic you cant just touch on it, I think (Im not sure) the thread I referenced you to is over 100 pages long and bottom line its not my responsibility to teach you about what levels of what chemical in a body mean in piss tests so think what you want....

Stepping up is one thing GSP has evolved BJ Pen has not.

Prone? LOL no he's not actually hes more prone to victory.

Not really Im not that big of a GSP fan and I dont hate BJ I just think of the two fighters (who are both overrated IMO) BJ is the guy with the least skill but hes still a good fighter.

I'm glad that it's not your responsibility "to educate me on what levels in the body mean" because from this stand point your outlook seems more biased that fact. We can in fact stray from that now.

Prone, yes. This is why he was defeated. I don't hate GSP, he's on my top 5. As is B.J. I never said that B.J. would dominate, and just as I can't convince you that GSPs record would be threatend in the event of a Penn fight, you've not convinced me otherwise.

They both are great athletes. This is why in my opinion, B.J. is capable of being competitive.

I guess if he is serious about it we will have to see what happens.

**Aaronyman** · 05-13-2008, 11:18 PM

last i checked gsp was not 1-1 w/ Hughes....or did you miss their UFC 79 bout?

9ERHIGH · 05-15-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by southpaw447

I agree BJ needs to focus on the task at hand. But one thing about BJ is he's always got something on his mind and he's going to say it.

BJ also has a tendency to think far ahead. Like his coach Junior said about him. They set a goal to start from a certain point and work up but BJ just starts at the top.

But first he needs to beat Sherk which I'm very confident he will given how hard he's training...

really? what do you know about his training.
word around the islands is that he is still takin bong rips at parties.
dont know how often that goes on, but...

Mufofamm · 05-15-2008, 06:47 PM

just because he said he wants a rematch with hughes and GSP does not mean he's not focused on sherk. it's not like he randomly brought it up. the interviewer asked him a question and BJ answered the question.