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Old 06-25-2006, 06:37 PM   #41 (permalink)
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What about Stephen Bonner..? He has an iron chin and is as tough as nails.! There's Also Forrest Griffen, whom I belive -and agree with a lot of you- is the future of the UFC. I also believe that he could have beaten Tito,But he didn't immpose his will from the begining and wound up fighting Tito's fight. What he needs to do in the next two or three fights is take target practice on some lesser but good opponets and work on immpossing his will and domonating and controling the fight from the begining..! Back to Bonner, I'm a firm believer in the axiom "Styles make Fights" and Bonner would be a better and more problimatic canidate for Ladell at the moment. Then there's Alway's Tito (if he can get it together to focus and to devise an offensive to counter and slow down Ladell's relentless attack; and he needs to make Chuck reach with his punches.Therefore, impeading his awesome punching power and exposing himself to Tito's Counter.. -easier said than done.!) Whatever the case, I see chuck prevailing in both accounts.. What about Rich Franklin..? If he was to move up in wieght, it will be one hell of a fight..! Then there's Pride's own Vanderlai Silver (Did I spell that right. ) Are they in the same weight class..? If This was ever to happen, Silver would be without a doubt, Chuck greatest and deadliest opponent.. Chuck Ladell is my favorite UFC Fighter (Forrest Griffen is my secound) But I belive that in this fight Silver would be Victorious by knockout.However, If chuck were to beat Silver, he would be immortalized and considerd to be not only the UFC's but the worlds best and Ultimate MMA fighting Champion.!
wow some excellent points made I wish most people made posts like this but then what do I expect from a fellow NYer.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:02 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I'm a big Bonnar fan and I agree his chin is strong but I don't think he would be able to get Chuck off of his feet. Randy had limited success in doing that and his ability to get opponents on the mat IMO is greater than Bonnars'. I agree about giving Forrest Griffin a few more fights with capable opponents. Make him climb through the ranks of the top fighters in the division. If he does not impose his will on those opponents he will not be able to do that to Chuck. If he does learn to do that on a consistant basis and if he increases his aggresiveness he will be a real threat.
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm a big Bonnar fan and I agree his chin is strong but I don't think he would be able to get Chuck off of his feet. Randy had limited success in doing that and his ability to get opponents on the mat IMO is greater than Bonnars'. I agree about giving Forrest Griffin a few more fights with capable opponents. Make him climb through the ranks of the top fighters in the division. If he does not impose his will on those opponents he will not be able to do that to Chuck. If he does learn to do that on a consistant basis and if he increases his aggresiveness he will be a real threat.
Ditto, Couldn't agree with you more.. My piont is that Bonnar will post a greater threat than most the fighters out there, and because of his fighting style -and great chin- he will do better than a lot of poeple will give him credit for. Of course Chucks agreesiveness, punching power, and ring savy will prevail, but it won't be as one sided as most of Chuck's fights. Surprisenly he will make Chuck earn his paycheck, and believe it or not, he will be able to take chuck down (he best chance at winnig the fight will be on the ground) Lets briefly analize Bonnar. He has better a than average stand up game (Remember He's a Golden Glove Champion a couple of times over) Hell, the truth is he can box (and bang) with the best of them.. And as for his floor game, Let's not forget, that He is a Gracie Alumni. Oh yeah, brazilian Jujitsu all the way. And of course he's Strong, Agreesive, and Tough than a M-F***Ker and always gives everything has..! (the fact is he doesn't know how to fight anyother way- that's a good thing.!) Remember "Styles make Fights" and from what we have out there now (Riich Franklin Aside) he more than likely fits the bill. Agian Chuck 's Expirence and condistion will prevail but it won't be a walk in the park.!! Let's see if Bonnar does as well as I believe he's going to on his next up-coming fight..
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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wow some excellent points made I wish most people made posts like this but then what do I expect from a fellow NYer.
A fellow New Yorker Huh..! Where abouts.?? By the way I've read a few of your post/treads and I'm feeling you..!
Tim Sylvia or Andrei Arlovski., What's your take.?
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:04 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm a big Bonnar fan and I agree his chin is strong but I don't think he would be able to get Chuck off of his feet. Randy had limited success in doing that and his ability to get opponents on the mat IMO is greater than Bonnars'. I agree about giving Forrest Griffin a few more fights with capable opponents. Make him climb through the ranks of the top fighters in the division. If he does not impose his will on those opponents he will not be able to do that to Chuck. If he does learn to do that on a consistant basis and if he increases his aggresiveness he will be a real threat.
Bonner is a decent fighter solid stand up,But i cant see him out striking or getting Chuck off his feet.I think Forrest Tito and Brandon Verra are going to be in the mix for his title.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:03 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I like Bonnar too but i think your forgetting Chuck is not just a hard hitter he also has pretty good wrestling skills you make it sound like once Chucks off his feet hes defenseless thats simply not true i know its a long time ago but look at his first fight with Jeremy Horn he was beating Horn on the ground, i'm not saying his ground game is as good as people like Tito and Randy but its something to consider when picking oppenants.

But i dont think Franklin could take Chuck theyre both good at Striking but Chuck definately has the harder hit it would only be a matter of time before Franklin was KO'd.
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But i dont think Franklin could take Chuck theyre both good at Striking but Chuck definately has the harder hit it would only be a matter of time before Franklin was KO'd.
I have to agree with you there. Franklin is a great technical striker but he doesn't have the one-punch power that Chuck has.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:41 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I think that bonnar and forrest aren't even in chuck's league. If tito's knee wans't hurt he'd have really killed him. Jeremy horn made quick work of forrest. forrest isn't that good. Chuck's next fight has to be Babalu, and he will lose the belt.
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Old 06-28-2006, 03:22 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I like Bonnar too but i think your forgetting Chuck is not just a hard hitter he also has pretty good wrestling skills you make it sound like once Chucks off his feet hes defenseless thats simply not true i know its a long time ago but look at his first fight with Jeremy Horn he was beating Horn on the ground, i'm not saying his ground game is as good as people like Tito and Randy but its something to consider when picking oppenants.

But i dont think Franklin could take Chuck theyre both good at Striking but Chuck definately has the harder hit it would only be a matter of time before Franklin was KO'd.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just flaming the fire.. Chuck is superior by far and has proved it time and again ( His two blowouts of Randy clearly proves that) Also, He definately has a ground game -unfortunately we don't get to see to many opponents take him down much less keep him down.- My points are simply to issustrate what a match with some of the new blood might be like., and that given some of the new talent, it would make some ligitimately good entertainig matches.. I also do not think Rich will beat him but, if anyone (in the UFC) can, he has about the best chance (If he gains the weight). His demise -I believe- lays in Pride.. I hear a lot of poeple saying that Babalu is going to take him. But honestly, I don't see Chuck losing in that match.. He's destruction lays in the hands of Pride's own Vanderlai Silva. If you can remember Chuck called him out when he was in the audience watching a UFC match (Can't remmeber which one at the moment) and he passively laughed it off. Don't get fooled for one moment by he's demeanor. He's an absolute animal who runs through his opponets like a run-away freight trian full of bad intentions.. That match is what I would call an Ultimate Fighter's match..!
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Old 06-28-2006, 03:24 AM   #50 (permalink)
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This thread is still around, jeez lol. We already know who Chuck is fighting next and that is Renato Babalu Sobral, okay? This thread isn't on Chuck's fighting skills its on who Chuck is fighting next and that is Babalu.
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