[Cochise]

Originally Posted by Damone

Forrest's ground game has always been good. He & Horn had a freakin' amazing ground war at Global Domination and he did really well against Bonnar when their first fight went to the ground. He does have the edge on the ground. His sub game is really good and was seriously underrated for a long while. Rampage is one tough guy to sub, though. Arona & Bustamante couldn't do it, neither could Mikhail.

I don't know, Murilo is a basic MW. Jackson's a huge LHW, size matters a little, even though he did put on a great show. I agree with the Arona statement, but you have to admit that the slam kind of saved him. Besides that I agree Forrest has a small chance at Subbin' the guy. But I'm expecting a close Decision.

[corey07]

This card, actually doesn't look that good. I mean, Rampage/Griffin is going to own, but that seems like the only good fight on the card.

[Ramzee]

Originally Posted by corey07

This card, actually doesn't look that good. I mean, Rampage/Griffin is going to own, but that seems like the only good fight on the card.

I have to agree, it's the only fight I look forward to watching

[RVCA]

I wouldn't say this card looks bad or anything, but I am definitely only looking forward to the Forrest v. Rampage fight. Almeida fight will be pretty sick though...

[kilik]

Originally Posted by corey07

This card, actually doesn't look that good. I mean, Rampage/Griffin is going to own, but that seems like the only good fight on the card.

Griffin vs Aurelio is a solid fight fight between two lightweight contenders.

Almeida vs Cote, the winner is near to a title shot.

Joe Stevenson vs Tibau is another solid fight between another two lightweights who are contenders.

Koscheck vs Lytle: The winner is close to a title shot, maybe another fight away from no1 contender status.

I think the main card of ufc 86 is great and one of the best cards this year. Im excited for every fight on the main card and the prelims are average.

[j-grif]

Anyone who says this card is weak is trippin. There a some sick ground fighter on this card. Also Tyson Griffin will create a stand up fight with Aurelio. Good card will be fun. Especially for those of us who will be there!!!

[tl25jc]

This seems like it will be a good card. part of me says that Rampage wins, but I got a feeling about griffin

[thuggedout]

hey j-grif your going damn im jealous, what kind of seats do you have?

[RushFan]

Does anyone know when vbookie will be up for this event?
Thanks T.B! Ask and you shall receive!

[G-S-P]

Forrest has less power, poorer boxing technique, weaker wrestling, a softer chin, and superior submissions. That's one area in the entire realm of MMA that he has an advantage and it's not even that large of an advantage. Rampage has fought guys with much better BJJ like Arona and Bustamante and avoided the submissions, I doubt Forrest has anything he hasn't seen there. Cardio-wise I'm not sure who I give the nod to. I think that Griffin's a bit overrated in terms of his conditioning and to give him the nod in that department, particularly when he hasn't even been in a five-rounder and Rampage has, is ludicrous. If anything I'll call this a draw though I actually favor Rampage here as well. Forrest's best shot is to catch Rampage in a submission and that's going to be very hard to do from the bottom, which is where I expect him to be if the fight goes to the ground.

He doesn't have any deadly attacks. He's an above-average fighter whose heart and toughness has carried him farther than his skill, and as much as I hate it for him, it's going to be very apparent that he never belonged in the cage with Rampage.