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I think that Gleison is going to pull an upset. I don't know why I can just feel it. He is the bigger stronger man, and his Jiu Jitsu is rather good. His striking is better everytime I watch him, and his wrestling is better to. As long as he can avoid a guillotine I see him winning by TKO or Unanimous. Anywhere care to wager?
I could see this happening. Tibau's also really big for 155. Then again, Joe has fought at 170.
I could see this happening. Tibau's also really big for 155. Then again, Joe has fought at 170.
Thank god someone else can see it haha. That problem with Joe is he has problem with big guys I think. Look at his loss with Ronald Ghun. That dude is not the best fighter haha (see his 10 fight losing streak at the moment) but he is big. I think Joe has the hardest time with people who are bigger than him, have good takedown defense, and are somewhat versed in BJJ. I mean if Tyson Griffin, one of the best wrestlers in the division, couldn't take Gleison down, then no way is Daddy.
If you have seen the fight you know he didn't lose it. That was the worst decision I have seen in the UFC.
i smoke alot dude i cant remember....didnt he get a fight against a somebody and came out and got his ass kicked??? Then he was kinda off the scene..I think it was matt serra????
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Thank god someone else can see it haha. That problem with Joe is he has problem with big guys I think. Look at his loss with Ronald Ghun. That dude is not the best fighter haha (see his 10 fight losing streak at the moment) but he is big. I think Joe has the hardest time with people who are bigger than him, have good takedown defense, and are somewhat versed in BJJ. I mean if Tyson Griffin, one of the best wrestlers in the division, couldn't take Gleison down, then no way is Daddy.
I think Joe can get Tibau down. Joe german suplexed Pellegrino and Kurt's a really good wrestler. Who knows, though, Tibau's a big dude, he really could win a decision. He gave Tyson trouble and Griffin's really good.
I think Joe can get Tibau down. Joe german suplexed Pellegrino and Kurt's a really good wrestler. Who knows, though, Tibau's a big dude, he really could win a decision. He gave Tyson trouble and Griffin's really good.
I'm not questioning Joes takedowns. I'm just saying that Tyson Griffin is a better wrestler than Joe, and he wasn't able to get him down, and hold him. But your right Joe does have some good takedown abilities
I really like Tibau's top positioning. The guy just doesn't give you any room. Joe, however, is really good off his back. Okay, I admit, this is actually becoming an interesting fight to me for some reason.
I'm not questioning Joes takedowns. I'm just saying that Tyson Griffin is a better wrestler than Joe, and he wasn't able to get him down, and hold him. But your right Joe does have some good takedown abilities
I watched that fight the other night and I don't recall Griffin attempting that many takedowns he was happy to box a win. Whenever he did get taken down however Tibau wasn't able to keep him down at all.
Card seems weak overall but names don't necessarily mean bad matches. My mind says Rampage will TKO but Forest is a gamer and I wouldn't be suprised to see him beat down Jackson either. Should be a great fight either way.
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