[The Legend]

Originally Posted by G-S-P

Rampage has become highly overrated lately but the same is true of Griffin. The guy loses a decision to Tito, wins a decision over Bonnar, gets KOed by Jardine, then chokes out Shogun and magically evolves into the second coming. Get real. He's a tough guy, moderately well-rounded, and likeable enough but the skills to perform against elite competition just aren't there.

He's good at everything but he doesn't excel in any one thing. He has average wrestling, good submissions, a decent chin, slow hands, decent technical boxing, little KO power, and a ton of heart. Let's compare to Rampage who has good technical boxing, an iron chin, is incredibly strong, very good wrestler, average submissions, and fast hands which are moderately heavy.

Griffin's only advantage is in the submission game and I doubt he'll find himself on the ground with Rampage unless he's on his back where he's not going to be nearly as effective. Also, Rampage has defended against better BJJ fighters than Griffin and has only been submitted once by Saku after he powered out of numerous other sub attempts.

He doesn't have any deadly attacks. He's an above-average fighter whose heart and toughness has carried him farther than his skill, and as much as I hate it for him, it's going to be very apparent that he never belonged in the cage with Rampage.

How is Rampage highly overrated?

[Damone]

Yeah, I'm also not getting how Rampage is highly overrated. He has been looking quite good lately, and is a bad match-up for someone like Forrest: Better stand-up, better wrestling and better chin.

Read it, just stated what I thought.

Some have vastly overemphasized his improvements since fighting in Pride, going as far as claiming that he would emphatically smash Wand and Shogun in rematches, which has little merit.

I don't really see many of those kind of posts, to tell you the truth. Many still seem to think that Wanderlei would win in a re-rematch, it's just that Rampage could be working on his plum defense. Shogun, well, Rampage looked like utter shit in their first fight and had a broken rib (Which was caused by Shogun, so props to him). Not saying it was a fluke or anything, but their second fight would, in my opinion, be a different fight. he may win, he may lose, but he'd at least be competitive.

Sherdog doesn't really count, since most, if not all, of their members ride the short bus to school.

This is why Silva vs Rampage 3 has to happen.

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[Suizida]

I really want Forrest to win, really don't like Rampage at all....
Forrest has got the advantage in subs, but hopefully Randy can put together a mad strategy, with the help from Wandi....

Also whose better in the Clinch game?
CMON FORREST

[coldcall420]

Originally Posted by UFCfan81

Forrest is not going to win Rampage, quit dreaming. Lol.

huh???

[WelshWizard]

I think Rampage will stop Forrest in the second round, he definitely has the power and the stand up advantage to do it. I think Forrest will give it a good go like he always does because he is a warrior but I just don't think hes on Rampages level tbh.

What we want to see then is Rampage - Silva 3

[thuggedout]

maybe wanderlei is teaching forest the plumb

[NickTisdale]

This isn't the best card I've ever seen but it's alright

My fight results:

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson - TKO - 2nd round
Patrick Cote - TKO - 1st round
Joe Stevenson - Unanimous Decision
Chris Lytle - Submission - 3rd round
Marcus Aurelio - Submission - 1st round

Gabriel Gonzaga - TKO - 1st round
Cole Miller - TKO - 1st round
Melvin Guillard - Submission - 1st round
Justin Buchholz - Submission - 1st round

I think this should be a good night...I just have to sleep a lot on the 5th so that I don't fall asleep during the fights.

[kilik]

Originally Posted by NickTisdale

This isn't the best card I've ever seen but it's alright

My fight results:

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson - TKO - 2nd round
Patrick Cote - TKO - 1st round
Joe Stevenson - Unanimous Decision
Chris Lytle - Submission - 3rd round
Marcus Aurelio - Submission - 1st round

Gabriel Gonzaga - TKO - 1st round
Cole Miller - TKO - 1st round
Melvin Guillard - Submission - 1st round
Justin Buchholz - Submission - 1st round

I think this should be a good night...I just have to sleep a lot on the 5th so that I don't fall asleep during the fights.

Its good to see another person rooting for Aurelio in this fight. I dont believe that Griffin will win either and after Aurelio subs him the Tyson Griffin bandwagons will disappear very quickly.

[Bob Pataki]

Originally Posted by Damone

Read it, just stated what I thought.



I don't really see many of those kind of posts, to tell you the truth. Many still seem to think that Wanderlei would win in a re-rematch, it's just that Rampage could be working on his plum defense. Shogun, well, Rampage looked like utter shit in their first fight and had a broken rib (Which was caused by Shogun, so props to him). Not saying it was a fluke or anything, but their second fight would, in my opinion, be a different fight. he may win, he may lose, but he'd at least be competitive.

Judging by their last few fights, I think Rampage could beat Wanderlei, and I'd back him. I think Rampage's standup has reached a new level, one that is more technically sound. It would be a war but I think too many people underestimate the improvements some fighters make in MMA.

As for Shogun, it's hard to say because we just don't know how he will look in his return. I think he will give Rampage more problems than Wanderlei though.