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View Poll Results: Who in the hell is going to be able to beat Anderson Silva

Rich Franklin in a rematch 33 24.26%
Mike Swick 12 8.82%
Nate Marquardt 4 2.94%
Chris Leben 0 0%
Patrick Cote 3 2.21%
Edwin Dewees 0 0%
Kendall Grove 4 2.94%
Ed Herman 1 0.74%
Evan Tanner 4 2.94%
Jason MacDonald 6 4.41%
David Loiseau 5 3.68%
Rory Singer 2 1.47%
Yushin Okami 0 0%
Martin Kampmann 1 0.74%
Thales Leites 0 0%
David Terrell 2 1.47%
Travis Lutter 0 0%
Pete Sell 0 0%
Nobody from the UFC 32 23.53%
Nobody PERIOD 10 7.35%
Matt Hughes if he moves up 17 12.50%
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:40 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I'll give you a hint.

It wouldnt be Nate Marquardt (who couldnt beat Rich Franklin), and it wouldnt be Mike Swick (who also couldnt beat Rich Franklin)...

We saw what Silva did to Franklin, I think the only thing that can beat Silva at this point is age.

Even if when I'm sure Franklin gets his rematch, and he'll be more hungry and focused, I still dont think there's any way of him defeating Silva.
I said this before, I think too many people are jumping on the Silva bandwagon, fighters will figure Anderson Silva out ... they're gonna get together after this and say "what can we do to deal with this striker" and they will find a way ... they always do. I mean, Silva is talented, but I don't think we can always expect him to walk through competition like we saw in the last 2 fights. I think a highly confident and well trained Mike Swick could surprise a lot of people. Don't forget, Lee Murray went the distance with him and Jorge Rivera even went further than Rich Franklin against Silva
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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A well trained Mike Swick might be able to last 3-4 minutes opposed to 1-2. BTW im not a Silva bandwagon fan iv'e been a fan of his for a long time.
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:45 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I said this before, I think too many people are jumping on the Silva bandwagon, fighters will figure Anderson Silva out ... they're gonna get together after this and say "what can we do to deal with this striker" and they will find a way ... they always do. I mean, Silva is talented, but I don't think we can always expect him to walk through competition like we saw in the last 2 fights. I think a highly confident and well trained Mike Swick could surprise a lot of people. Don't forget, Lee Murray went the distance with him and Jorge Rivera even went further than Rich Franklin against Silva
If you're implying Lee Murray will beat Anderson, then I'm sorry you haven't got the news yet haha. I think Lee Murray will be spending the majority of the rest of his life in federal prison.

And Jorge won't have the chance to fight Anderson seeings how he lost on TUF, and Jorge and Silva both were completely different fighters at the time. Jorge was at his peak, and Silva on the rise.

Mike Swick, maybe, but I can't see it after seeing him fight Loiseau. Loiseau is half the striker Anderson is and 1/3 the BJJ. Swick would need a miracle IMO.
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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hi guys, new here but been following MMA for awhile.


Really starting to get into the UFC. I think RF will beat him in a rematch. In the clinch RF was looking to dominate Silva that is why he didnt give it up. When they got into the clinch right after one of those knees all he had to do was drop his head and take silva down.

Those first few knees is what ended the fight. I really think it was the body work that destroyed franklin off the hop. You can see him forget about the takedown which means that he couldnt bend over making the take down impossible.

Silva one fair and square, and I think he is an outstanding fighter but he should not have gotten his title shot so soon. Walking into the UFC and getting your title shot after one fight is kind of silly.

Can Quick Swick beat him? Possibly, Mike is tough as hell and very very fast. I really think that swick would take it to the ground and not force a stand up. Meaning a much more even fight.

Franklin will be back. He got his ass kicked but to all those who posted yeah your right something looked really off about franklin. Maybe something was wrong before or maybe it was just the first one or two knees that really demolished him.

Either way a rematch is really needed and a new approach is as well.
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:55 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I said this before, I think too many people are jumping on the Silva bandwagon, fighters will figure Anderson Silva out ... they're gonna get together after this and say "what can we do to deal with this striker" and they will find a way ... they always do. I mean, Silva is talented, but I don't think we can always expect him to walk through competition like we saw in the last 2 fights. I think a highly confident and well trained Mike Swick could surprise a lot of people. Don't forget, Lee Murray went the distance with him and Jorge Rivera even went further than Rich Franklin against Silva
First I'll ask the question did you actually see this fight? Secondly did you ever think that maybe Anderson improved since those dec fights. I mena its like saying the Bears sucked 2 years ago so there gonna lose to the Cardinals. It aint gonna happen. Silva just demolished the guy nearly everyone called the best MW in the world now you say Mike Swick can beat him. Give me a ****in break man. You make it sound easy to just get together and figure out how to beat his style. Its not like he was doing anything fancy it was a simple muay thai clinch. You can call me a bandwagon guy all you want I was really impressed with Silva and i honestly dont think hes losing anytime soon.
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hi guys, new here but been following MMA for awhile.


Really starting to get into the UFC. I think RF will beat him in a rematch. In the clinch RF was looking to dominate Silva that is why he didnt give it up. When they got into the clinch right after one of those knees all he had to do was drop his head and take silva down.

Those first few knees is what ended the fight. I really think it was the body work that destroyed franklin off the hop. You can see him forget about the takedown which means that he couldnt bend over making the take down impossible.

Silva one fair and square, and I think he is an outstanding fighter but he should not have gotten his title shot so soon. Walking into the UFC and getting your title shot after one fight is kind of silly.

Can Quick Swick beat him? Possibly, Mike is tough as hell and very very fast. I really think that swick would take it to the ground and not force a stand up. Meaning a much more even fight.

Franklin will be back. He got his ass kicked but to all those who posted yeah your right something looked really off about franklin. Maybe something was wrong before or maybe it was just the first one or two knees that really demolished him.

Either way a rematch is really needed and a new approach is as well.

Great post I agree with most of it except you do know Rich got his title shot right off the bat as well right? I mean he had a few fights in the UFC but none at middleweight, but that's no different than Silva having a bunch of fights just not in the UFC. Both were undeserving of title shots but both won....crazy huh.
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hey dude ... when I said Jorge and Lee Murray, I meant they fought Anderson in the past, not saying they should do it again ... actually I haven't heard about Murray but will look it up .. I just think fighters will begin to figure Silva out and if Swick was well trained and had a great game plan, confidence, he could surprise a lot of people ... he already has
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I know rich Ive talked to him before he always talks about what he could have done better in his last fight and dose it better in the next fight. he will work on his clinch defence and attacks and he will be back.
then he has to strike with silva... whats he gonna do then
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hey dude ... when I said Jorge and Lee Murray, I meant they fought Anderson in the past, not saying they should do it again ... actually I haven't heard about Murray but will look it up .. I just think fighters will begin to figure Silva out and if Swick was well trained and had a great game plan, confidence, he could surprise a lot of people ... he already has
Anderson Silva and his fighting style was no secret to Rich before this fight. HE GOT DOMINTED. Why cant you just acknowledge that. Theres no way around it this was a brutal beating and Rich couldnt do anything about it.
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When there's a legitimate ranking system in place and we see guys come in and get a fight off the bat....then talk to me. But so long as they stage fights between unranked fighters with a guy receiving a title shot due to work done outside the UFC I see no problem with it. Especially when a fan is MMA - not "UFC" knowledgeable - of said fighter and know what a treat they are in for. When they announced this fight, I could care less about every other MW in the UFC. Silva was who I wanted to see against Franklin.

Good observation too on Franklin getting his first title shot similar to Silva's. Dana White has also said various things in interviews about what he saw in Franklin watching him fight even before he came to the UFC leading me to believe this "poster boy" image was cooked up and hatched by White anyway.

Silva got the same opportunity as Franklin and capitalized, as did Franklin. All the talk about his time in the UFC and receiving a shot after only 1 fight is null and void cause I can gurantee you that's who the public wanted to see. Not Swick or any of the other MW.
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