UFCThe Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books.
UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on Spike TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.
Well, regardless of how the round was going I do think the stoppage was early. And it sucks for both of them because I don't think a fighter likes to win via contraversial stoppage either, it soils the win.
That's why I said Vera is a crybaby, he always whines when losing and doesn't give credit to his opponent. If he hadn't whined about the stoppage we wouldn't be having this conversation, IMO.
That's why I said Vera is a crybaby, he always whines when losing and doesn't give credit to his opponent. If he hadn't whined about the stoppage we wouldn't be having this conversation, IMO.
haha, well, that's probably true
__________________
If you cheat at cards youll get thrown out
Right out the Saloon doors on your butt
Come back in and buy a round of whiskey
Guess what? All is forgiven!!
That's why I said Vera is a crybaby, he always whines when losing and doesn't give credit to his opponent. If he hadn't whined about the stoppage we wouldn't be having this conversation, IMO.
People were calling it a bad stoppage long before the press conference when he really expressed his thoughts on the match.
In fact people were posting in the official thread that it was a bad stoppage before they even raised Werdums hand.
That's why I said Vera is a crybaby, he always whines when losing and doesn't give credit to his opponent. If he hadn't whined about the stoppage we wouldn't be having this conversation, IMO.
I find it funny you would call Brandon a crybaby and point out that he wines after all his losses, all two of them... right? The stoppage was terrible! Hitting someone in the hand doesn't constitute beating them. Maybe it did need to go on to see what happened. But who's to say that Brandon wouldn't have bucked him off? Or who's to say Brandon wouldn't have turned over and been caught in a rear naked choke by one of the best BJJ guys out there? We'll never know, but one thing that is known is that that stoppage was garbage! Do yourself a favor, if you don't like the man fine, but don't try to justify something that even the most inexperienced fight fan can see was wrong.
No, the stoppage was ok, he wasn't fighting back or trying to improve his position, he was there eating shots from a 250lb guy and there were still 20 seconds left in the round, that's a lot of time to dish out punishment. You can't just go into the fetal position and do nothing because the end of the round is 30 seconds away and expect the fight not to be stopped.
I totally agree, its the rules of the game YOU CANNOT GO ON IF YOUR NOT INTLLIGENTLY DEFENDING YOUR SELF, and laying in the fetal position taking shots to the face and arms is definetly what was going on, 20 seconds left could be 20 more blows to the face. I like Vera hes a good fighter, he might have knocked werdum out in the next round but the rules are the rules.
20 seconds left could be 20 more blows to the face.
So they should stop a fight for what COULD happen? So when Big Nog gets a guy to the ground they should stop the fight because he is so good at BJJ that he COULD break their arm?
Had they fight gone on and Werdum HAD landed those 20 blows and they HAD begun to hurt Vera then a stoppage would be justified. But just throwing leather and not doing damage is not a good reason to stop a fight.
I totally agree, its the rules of the game YOU CANNOT GO ON IF YOUR NOT INTLLIGENTLY DEFENDING YOUR SELF, and laying in the fetal position taking shots to the face and arms is definetly what was going on, 20 seconds left could be 20 more blows to the face. I like Vera hes a good fighter, he might have knocked werdum out in the next round but the rules are the rules.
perhaps you don't have the fight available to watch again but Vera was catching a good portion of those blows on his back. What the hell else are you supposed to do when on your back but protect yourself and try to escape? By your definition, anytime a guy gets mounted they might as well stop the fight if he doesn't escape almost instantly because in that position it is inevitable that you will take unanswered blows until you get out.
__________________
If you cheat at cards youll get thrown out
Right out the Saloon doors on your butt
Come back in and buy a round of whiskey
Guess what? All is forgiven!!
It's Vera's fault for getting mounted, just covering up and not trying to improve position. He is the only one to blame.
__________________ Fav. Fighters
Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira
Ken "You got kicked. By a kick." Shamrock
WAR The CroCop!
Bottomline, the fight gets stopped because the fighter is no longer defending himself, not because he's not returning the strikes, and Brandon was still defending himself. He could easily have lasted another 20 seconds and maybe come back to win in the next round.
Quote from John in that interview:
John: From what I was seeing, he got hit with a couple shots but he was blocking a lot of them, and he was doing a pretty good job of defending himself in a bad situation... I don't think he'd damaged Brandon enough at this point that he couldn't intelligently defend himself.
Interviewer: I was just gonna ask, do you have a solid opinion on that? if you were the ref, what would you do?
John: Everyone's going to form an opinion, and this is what I'm saying, Dan went with his opinion at the time, and there's people that are gonna look at it and say, "you were wrong", and there's people that are gonna say "oh you were right", and that's fine. But you know, would I have stopped it the fight when it did? no, I wouldn't have.
__________________
If you cheat at cards youll get thrown out
Right out the Saloon doors on your butt
Come back in and buy a round of whiskey
Guess what? All is forgiven!!
Everyone has a different interpretation, that doesn't necessarily make Big John's right or wrong.
There is no rule stating once a fighter gets 8 unprotected hits to the face, the fight has to be stopped. It's how you interpret the situation and not everyone is going to have the same interpretation.
__________________
Pride ofKOREA:
Yoshihiro Akiyama (Choo Sung Hoon)
Denis "The Super Korean" Kang
Yoon Dong Sik
Dong Hyun "Stun Gun" Kim
Bu Kyung Jung
Hong Man "The Techno Goliath" Choi
Brandon Vera: "I understand why Fabricio doesn't want to fight me again."
Linear Mode
