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Old 06-10-2008, 02:33 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Intellgently defending yourself would be trying to buck even if Werdum's mount is to good you have to do something to make yourself look active. Lying there covering up isn't intellgently defending.

Attempting to wrap Werdum up would be intellegent defence. Planning on having him beat on you till the end of the round isn't intellgent defence.
If Big John had been reffing apparently it would have been. But I guess you and he disagree on this particular case, and that's cool. Now you can war Dan Miragliotta as your soul-mate referee!
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:41 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I dont understand everyone saying he wasnt defending himself though. He said himself in the press conference he knew he wasnt getting out of mount but he knew the round was coming to a close so since he wasnt taking damage he figured he would protect and wait out the round..
j, there's a difference between waiting and defending yourself.

Vera consciously chose not to defend himself because he knew he could wait out the round.

Waiting is how fighters get seriously hurt, even with only a few seconds left. If you aren't working to better your position, you aren't showing the ref that you want to fight, you're showing the ref that you want to go back to your corner and get a drink of water.
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Wow, I didn't expect anyone to defend the stoppage.

I agree that it was an asswhupping, but I still think that Miragliotta should have waited until seeing that Vera had sustained damage to the head.

That said, it's true he wasn't defending himself intelligently. He should have been given a bit more time to show what that he knew how.
Vera is acting out a tad pathetically, but he got dominated and knows it. He should have been given the extra few seconds to go to round 2 but this is the fight game. C'est la vie.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:50 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Vera is acting out a tad pathetically, but he got dominated and knows it. He should have been given the extra few seconds to go to round 2 but this is the fight game. C'est la vie.
Yep. Sounds about right to me.

This is the fight game. Fight, please.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:22 AM   #75 (permalink)
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now all i want to see is vera go down to 205 and kill everyone in that division so all these vera haters can shut the f**k up!
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:44 AM   #76 (permalink)
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now all i want to see is vera go down to 205 and kill everyone in that division so all these vera haters can shut the f**k up!
The talent pool at LHW is deeper and many of those guys are bigger than Vera (Rampage, Forrest) I doubt he'll have much success at LHW.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:36 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Vera is a crybaby, he said he was winning the 1st round until the stoppage, that guy is delusional. He always blames his loses on someone and gives his opponents no credit. I would have liked the ref to let the fight continue until Vera was a bloody mess so I didn't have to hear his excuses afterwards.
he was winning the early rounds he took a shot at werdum, the brazilian almost got knock out and lost his footing, what fight are you watching dude? did you saw how vera raise the hand of werdum and in exact words vera said "fabricio caught me with some clean shots, thank you fabricio good job" isn't thatgiving credit or respect to his opponent? there's no way to end this but a werdum and vera 2.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:20 AM   #78 (permalink)
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he was winning the early rounds he took a shot at werdum, the brazilian almost got knock out and lost his footing, what fight are you watching dude? did you saw how vera raise the hand of werdum and in exact words vera said "fabricio caught me with some clean shots, thank you fabricio good job" isn't thatgiving credit or respect to his opponent? there's no way to end this but a werdum and vera 2.
No, it is not if you start talking shit a few minutes later at the press conference, which Vera did.
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No, it is not if you start talking shit a few minutes later at the press conference, which Vera did.
i ain't arguin with you, we have different opinions, and i see no good in exchanging shit words with you..
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:33 AM   #80 (permalink)
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i ain't arguin with you, we have different opinions, and i see no good in exchanging shit words with you..
Then why did you quote me in the first place? You can't go quoting people and don't expect a response .
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