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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-16-2006, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
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i for one like the elbows in the UFC, however they cut people easy. Sean Sherk potentially could have lost because of his cut. That would make Florian the champ because of a cut. I doubt that fighters could use elbow pads, because they could get in the way of submissions and whatnot.

I would like to see the UFC get rid of elbows, and allow kicks knees and stomps to the head of a downed opponent. However the fighters should only be able to do this if they are inside of the centre octagon outline in the ring, not while pinned against the cage.

The fights will be more intersting. Wretlers wont be able to hold someone down and just throw short elbows through the guard and pull off a boring decision victory. Whereas if the man in guard has to throw a punch its easier forthe guy to go for subs from the bottom.

to me a knock out due to kick to the face seems a little more decisive to then winner by cut. Thought???
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i for one like the elbows in the UFC, however they cut people easy. Sean Sherk potentially could have lost because of his cut. That would make Florian the champ because of a cut. I doubt that fighters could use elbow pads, because they could get in the way of submissions and whatnot.

I would like to see the UFC get rid of elbows, and allow kicks knees and stomps to the head of a downed opponent. However the fighters should only be able to do this if they are inside of the centre octagon outline in the ring, not while pinned against the cage.

The fights will be more intersting. Wretlers wont be able to hold someone down and just throw short elbows through the guard and pull off a boring decision victory. Whereas if the man in guard has to throw a punch its easier forthe guy to go for subs from the bottom.

to me a knock out due to kick to the face seems a little more decisive to then winner by cut. Thought???

I Dont think they should be stopped for cuts, i say let em bleed and tapout if they want to.
i definatly dont think they need any kind of pad or elbow cover
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i agree with atomdanger let it go untill they fell they cant no more.
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I Dont think they should be stopped for cuts, i say let em bleed and tapout if they want to.
i definatly dont think they need any kind of pad or elbow cover
Not only that, but the only way a fight should be stopped is due to tap out or unconsciousness.

I know it's a risk to the fighter's health, but it would end a lot of controvers surrounding early stoppage, and it would be a hell of a lot more entertaining.
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i agree with atomdanger let it go untill they fell they cant no more.

Yeah i mean, MMA is based on fighting, obviously.
Being cut is part of that, You can't make the sport too safe, or it will get REALLY boring.
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Not only that, but the only way a fight should be stopped is due to tap out or unconsciousness.

I know it's a risk to the fighter's health, but it would end a lot of controvers surrounding early stoppage, and it would be a hell of a lot more entertaining.

YEAH!
I think the ref stoppage is used WAYYYY too much.
These guys fight, a lot of them for a living, they know when they are done and if they dont, thier body does.
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The UFC doesn't have much of a say in the matter as its the doctors and the athletic commissions that decide that. They would also never allow head stomps or kneeing the head of downed apponent.


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The UFC doesn't have much of a say in the matter as its the doctors and the athletic commissions that decide that. They would also never allow head stomps or kneeing the head of downed apponent.


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Yeah, but those rules are fair...

I think they could pretty easily let up a little on ref stoppage for not defending.
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The UFC doesn't have much of a say in the matter as its the doctors and the athletic commissions that decide that. They would also never allow head stomps or kneeing the head of downed apponent.


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Not true, UFC could ban elbows if they want. Pride's upcoming US event will not allow elbows because that is a Pride rule. The reason? Not because it's dangerous but because elbows cause cuts more easily and thus doctor stoppages which don't make for good fights.
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I would like to see the UFC get rid of elbows
Elbows are a great way to win a fight. They allow for powerful close-quarters striking. If a guy gets cut because of elbow strikes and bleeds enough for the fight to be stopped then good for the guy who threw the strike(s). It doesn't matter if its Kenny Florian or Sean Sherk, its all about damage.
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