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asskicker i think it was fixed because of the way he didn't break the clinch with 1 of the four defenses or offenses that i described earlier.no bs seriously even standing rich was leaving his guard wide open like never before inviting a ko.rich is so much better than that i say it was fixed.that tai clinch everyone keeps jawing about is goofy that has been in the ufc forever.anybody that has actually trained and fought for real knows the tai clinch is not the place to hang out all day with a tai guy but,thats so easy to get a takedown from its silly to think silva is so much better than rich because of a tai clinch....fool some but not me...
So all the fights that fighters have won in the clinch have been fixed? What about Wanderlei's fights? Was Silva/Rampage fixed too?
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it can be totally different if u get rocked and the guys in never never land.even if rich would have been rocked which he wasn't when anderson clinched rich would have went straight for the takedown in normal fighting situations.it was fixed though so thats not normal is it.jackson in both fights was out on his feet those guys never clinch a guy thats not hurt because of the risk of takedowns
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thank god bundle somebody besides myself knows fight fixing happens.can we prove no.but when u watch a true champ fight like a amaeteur somethings up.rich in my opinion did just that.im also tired of hearing what a tai clinch.single,double leg t downs body lock for mount,or just basic swim move for easy escape.sorry just to sit there and take knee after knee to the body.rich is not that naive or bad.in a real fight he would have 1 of the 4 things for bettering his position.carlos newton took him down 6 times....
silva isnt an amateur and according to what you guys are saying they want to appeal to americans and shit then why did they let an american fighter get taken out by a brazilian i fail to see how they would benefit from rigging that fight

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single,doulble leg,body lock for mount,swim move to escape clinch.very easy.u think rich is an amateur.well since u r just that why dont u challenge him.im tired of guys saying rich was not a real champ.bs he would stomp anybody at pride currently in the 185 div.i suppose you would pick pride.that would just show your curent knowledge of mma which is mma
dan henderson has a damn good chance of winning against rich

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confusion and curiosity sells.the ufc champs have retained to long and the public wanted a change.and the ufc wanted a change.and it stirred up all this great excitment.ufc will make a ton and creat a new fan base because everyone thinks anderson is the second coming...not me i've seen him fight for a years now he has lost 4 times to guys rich would ko in 1 minute or less...im not sold until their 3rd fight because #2 rich will own him
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This might be a little off topic, but what did you think of Pride screwing over Guy Mezger in the Sakuraba fight? They obviously lied to Guy, so Ken....being Ken, made Guy get out of the ring.
i never heard about that what happened?

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asskicker i think it was fixed because of the way he didn't break the clinch with 1 of the four defenses or offenses that i described earlier.no bs seriously even standing rich was leaving his guard wide open like never before inviting a ko.rich is so much better than that i say it was fixed.that tai clinch everyone keeps jawing about is goofy that has been in the ufc forever.anybody that has actually trained and fought for real knows the tai clinch is not the place to hang out all day with a tai guy but,thats so easy to get a takedown from its silly to think silva is so much better than rich because of a tai clinch....fool some but not me...
what leads you to think rich is really so good just answer me this one question no bullshit just answer it and give proof like fighters he previously fought which were actually good

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confusion and curiosity sells.the ufc champs have retained to long and the public wanted a change.and the ufc wanted a change.and it stirred up all this great excitment.ufc will make a ton and creat a new fan base because everyone thinks anderson is the second coming...not me i've seen him fight for a years now he has lost 4 times to guys rich would ko in 1 minute or less...im not sold until their 3rd fight because #2 rich will own him
put it that why hasnt matt hughes been taken out he has been champ much longer than rich franklin in fact i think hes had the most title defenses in ufc history do the american people think its time to take him out too??? and by the same card do you also think chuck will "lose" to ortiz because he has also been champ too long as well???? hahahahhahahah

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i never heard about that what happened?
Guy was told by Pride officials that his fight with Sakuraba would be one 15 minute round. Guy clearly won the fight, but the Pride ref's called it a draw, and said they'd have to go another round. Ken told Guy to leave the ring, which Mezger did.

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no bs.besides the four ways earlier i gave ways to beat that sissy tai clich that everyone apparently has seen for the first time in their life.rich knows thoughs very very well.he hasn't lost in 2years.he is a bad ass for sure david L,evan tanner is no push over the guy wont quit.richs entire record was 1 loss ever in mma.which truly means nothing.anderson has lost 4 that rich would have destroyed at will.silvas big fight was against Newton which took him down 6 times in one fight.wow that clich got him.rich has the strength to hold him down as well where newton didn't do a good job of....SO that in a nutshell
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