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Old 10-18-2006, 01:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Another Florian grabbing fence thread? Jesus get f'n over it already. Other fighters do that aswell.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another Florian grabbing fence thread? Jesus get f'n over it already. Other fighters do that aswell.
Ohhh, I guess that you are ok with someone not working with in the rules to try and win a fight. Would you have thought it was ok for Sherk to elbow the back of the head all night? What about if Sherk kicked him in the groin? Do you think that the path of the fight could not be changed by holding the fence?
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I for one believe it would have been a KO slam if Kenflo didn't grab the fence. It looked like he was going to do a running slam (the kind Hughes & GSP like to do). The height was just enough to deal a large amount of damage. Everyone here knows that KO slams are relatively rare in the UFC. Anyone else think that would have been a KO slam or at least it would have ended in a quick TKO. Anyone else think that would have been a KO slam or at least it would have ended in a quick TKO?
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well I dont think this is about Floran only. But it was demontrasted in infamous fashion in the title fight.

He broke the rules to avoid a situation that would have direct effect on his ability to win the fight. That should result in a immed removal of a point. Hopefully this doesnt become common place in the future. Although I have seen even Chuck do it to avoid a takedown.
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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ken is an ew fighter and has never been in the position where he had the chance to grab the fence. it comes natural to do that when you do that he proboly did it whithout even knowing. It takes awhile to get use to it everyone makes mistakes so dont get mad at hem just yet. see what he dose in the future.
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It's not kike it affected the outcome...so who really gives shit?
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It's not kike it affected the outcome...so who really gives shit?
+1, he'll get used to not grabbing the fence.
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hey, it's the UFC's fault. they have no way of enforcing the "no grabbing" rule! still, if you go into a fight, you're supposed to know, and then abide by the rules. Silvia sure doesn't, so why should Florian?
Well we dont want everyone doing the same things in the ring that Tim Sylvia does do we?
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Great thread chris. Glad to see someone else agrees with me finally. Grabbing the fence isn't part of the UFC it's flat out cheating and it doesn't matter who else does it, cuz Kenny completely changed the outcome of this fight because of how he grabbed the fence. Sherk had mount several time but Ken would cheat to stand back up and avoid being pounded to death in the mount. Then the slam...Sherk was getting ready to take him to his corner, and possibly use his corner men to help him finish the fight. But since Kenny grabbed the fence, Sherk didn't get to do what he wanted. If they have it as a rule, then they need to enforce it somehow. I agree it's instinct...but there's no excuse for someone with as many fights as he has to do it THAT MANY times in one fight. No excuse at all except he was terrified and didn't wanna lose or fight like a man. But yea I lost what little respect I had of him too. I respect him as a fighter, and respect him for going 5 rounds....but he wouldn't have gone 5 rounds without grabbing the fence I can tell ya that.
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