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07-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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Core Training
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Your wrong on both accounts.
1. Forrest was the clear aggressor during the fight.
2. Many people on this site are Machida lovers.
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07-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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This is stupid, both Machida and Forest have many lovers and haters. Both fight to score rather than to tko/sub, and both are disliked for it by some/ and called geniuses by others.
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07-06-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flak
Forrest would engage, then reset. Machida barely engages, period.
Forrest did fight somewhat Machidaesque, but he didn't fight just like Machida.
The proof is in the pudding. Forrest got hit too often!  |
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Not really. Machida is way more elusive than what Forrest was doing last night.
Forrest was engaging alot more than most Machida fights. He was using the same lateral movement, but not nearly as much.
I like Machidas style. He's a super smart fighter.
Forrest was sticking and moving. But he was sticking alot.
Machida is just elusive, and doesn't engage as often.
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Umm, were we watching the same fight? I garuntee you that Machida would not of rushed Rampage the way Forrest did. And besides Forrest was using a stratagy called hit and run. Not Lyoto's famous stratagy of keep backing up and hitting.
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i could not agree more with you three......this isgonna be the talk for a while...all the rampage die hards need time to adjust to the situation...my hatsoff to both guys but i mean Forrest came in there did what he wanted got what he wanted(more importantly) and was outta there...not before he said opely that he would fight Rampage again...rep for all three if not now when it lets me.... 
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07-06-2008, 05:15 PM
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Forrest is NOT Machida. Forrests fights are always exciting.
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07-06-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cplmac
Forrest is NOT Machida. Forrests fights are always exciting.
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So are Machida's IMO.
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07-06-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise
Umm, were we watching the same fight? I garuntee you that Machida would not of rushed Rampage the way Forrest did. And besides Forrest was using a stratagy called hit and run. Not Lyoto's famous stratagy of keep backing up and hitting.
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Yeah, i was watching the fight.
I dont know what you saw... but those 'rushes' were all from the outside.
The one time they stood toe to toe, Forrest ate mat.
After that, as soon as Rampage got too close, Forrest moved out of the pocket OR threw leg kicks to get Rampage to back up.
Is 'Hit and Run' so different from 'Backing up and hitting'?
Geeze,
Forrest never threw any punches while backing up?
All the connects on Tito was while Lyoto was backing up?
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Forrest is NOT Machida. Forrests fights are always exciting.
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Forrest used a similar 'not engage on your opponents terms' strategy.
They are not identical... but similar.
This was not a typical Forrest fight... his last two have been to win, not to end... something he freely admits and commented on... in fact, he's apologized for it already.
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07-06-2008, 05:29 PM
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That was nothing like a Machida fight. Forrest was in a couple of nice exchanges with Rampage. If that was Machida he wouldve back peddled and let Rampage be the aggressor.
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07-06-2008, 05:38 PM
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I think it was a very similar style but Machida is just better at getting out of the pocket again. If Forrest was as quick then that fight last night would have been considered boring to a lot of people.
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07-06-2008, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by attention
Yeah, i was watching the fight.
I dont know what you saw... but those 'rushes' were all from the outside.
The one time they stood toe to toe, Forrest ate mat.
After that, as soon as Rampage got too close, Forrest moved out of the pocket OR threw leg kicks to get Rampage to back up.
Is 'Hit and Run' so different from 'Backing up and hitting'?
Geeze,
Forrest never threw any punches while backing up?
All the connects on Tito was while Lyoto was backing up?
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How could you possibley expect Forrest to run up to Rampage stand right in his face and start attcking? Rampage hits harder, A LOT harder, that Forrest. Rampage would of won easily. Forrest did however engage. He ran in there hit a few hits, and backed out. He got tagged a little, but Machida would never do that. Machida would just run away and tag him, as Jackson came.
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07-06-2008, 05:52 PM
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Sparring
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Originally Posted by Cochise
How could you possibley expect Forrest to run up to Rampage stand right in his face and start attcking? Rampage hits harder, A LOT harder, that Forrest. Rampage would of won easily. Forrest did however engage. He ran in there hit a few hits, and backed out. He got tagged a little, but Machida would never do that. Machida would just run away and tag him, as Jackson came.
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I didnt expect him to stand there... thats not my point.
But the fact that Machida is quick enuf to get out and not suffer any damage makes him boring (as Zender stated).
Machida 'did' do that already... yet everyone gives him flac for doing it.
But eat a few, get your face busted up... and its exciting.
If Forrest could have gotten out fast enough, he would have done so... without getting hit.
The Tito/Machida fight was pretty much the same as you stated... 'He ran in there hit a few hits, and backed out'... and I think you need to rewatch that fight again before you state thats not what Machida did... cause Tito's face tells a different story
'...but Machida would never do that'... as far as I can tell, hes not backing up...
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All this Love for Forrest...
