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Jardine vs Vera should be a great fight. They both should be hungry for a win. I hope they both come in looking to finish each other instead of just trying to win on points. If that is the case, it may end up being fight of the night.
They both have some nasty leg kicks, but Vera can take your head off. I like vera in this one as well, as long as he comes in hungry and in shape.
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If Bisping(or any fighter)cant beat Leben they should seriously think about retirement.Leben is an average fighter..no more..no less.
Are you serious, Leben might not be a GREAT fighter, but saying anybody should be able to beat him lol. Leben his very heavy handed and he can handle his own when it goes to the ground. He just needs to work on cardio some more. He looked better last I saw him.
I've refrained from posting in this thread for the longest because I like both fighters equally and hate to see either of them lose. If I had to choose who I honestly thought would win though, I would have to go with Bisping, late 1st or early 2nd. Chris has been looking better each fight and I think his time in Hawaii will have paid off very well for him but I do not think he is ready for Bisping caliber yet.
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Leben is better mentally than Bisping, although i see one of my favs Bisping taking this.
I believe Bisping is only just settling into the fact he is a UFC fighter and perhaps the last two wins will give him the confidence to carry on developing as he has, if indeed he does beat Leben, well then i can see him being willing to take on the likes of Macdonald who would be a huge test at MW.
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that sucks that machida is no longer on the card, been waiting for that fight for a while. I think that the Vera/Jardine fight will go the distance, and jardine will come out with the win. the leben/bisping fight is definitely goin to be a war, to close to call
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...I have been waiting for Machida & Silva to meet for a year, and now they take Lyoto off the card? To me, that was the most anticipated fight for the whole event. Machida said they haven't found an opponent for him so he'll have to fight on another event. Ha!...I think Joe Silva asked some people and they probably said "Hell no I'm not fighting that guy"...lol! Nobody has figured out how to fight Machida yet. His elusive Karate style attack is very unique. He has excellent faints, moves in & out very well. Lyoto has great foot movement as well. His striking is top notch also. When he finds openings he attacks aggressively. I bet Rich Franklin won't fight Machida again after getting KO'd by The Dragon. He completely outclassed Tito when they fought. Tito was right about one thing "Lyoto Machida is a great fighter and has a bright future ahead of him in the UFC."
Leben is better mentally than Bisping, although i see one of my favs Bisping taking this.
I believe Bisping is only just settling into the fact he is a UFC fighter and perhaps the last two wins will give him the confidence to carry on developing as he has, if indeed he does beat Leben, well then i can see him being willing to take on the likes of Macdonald who would be a huge test at MW.
Actually I think Leben is more of a threat to Bisping than Macdonald. Bisping TDD is goo and his scrambling to get back up with out receiving any damage is excellect. On the other hand J-Mac's striking is average and is take downs are pretty poor. At least Leben can beat Bisping standing (i don't think he will but he can). Bisping would beat Macdonald by being the one to control where the fight would take place.
UFC 89: Leben vs. Bisping Discussion Thread
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