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**No_Mercy** · 07-21-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwaside

Main event? Even for a fight night never! Hardly anybody even knows who either of these guys are. I'd rather see Mini-Me vs. Bushwick Bill in the main event.

Hahhaha...hahahha...lolz...homeboy said Verne Troyer vs The Geto Boys Bushwick Bill. Bushwick will hurt him badly...

Thanks for the laugh...

**The Legend** · 07-21-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeZup

I was looking for a DQ nevermind a No Contest. He was warned about the eye pokes.

That's what I thought it was going to be when they first stopped the fight but I think if it gets overturned that it can only go to a no contest. I'm not sure though.

cabby · 07-21-2008, 05:22 PM

IF Nick Diaz's biggest win was turned over to a NC because of Marijuana then I think this should def. be turned over as well. The dumbest ******* call I have ever seen in my life...........................AND WINNER BY EYE POKE.......KEVIN BURNS..........CROWD GOES WILD!!!!!!

**JT42** · 07-21-2008, 05:29 PM

If Burns couldnt make a fist then he shouldnt have been medically cleared to fight. There is no excuse for poking someone in the eye 5-6 times during a fight.

The NSAC should absolutely overturn the decision.

However, I really dont know if all the criticism of Mazzagatti is warranted. He was on the back side of the poke and uppercut so to him it looked like a KO combo. He has to stop the fight and make a ruling immediately. Currently there is no instant replay rule in effect for MMA so I dont believe he had the option of overturning his decision after seeing the big screen replay. I dont feel he is at fault.

cabby · 07-21-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jtaylor42

He was on the back side of the poke and uppercut so to him it looked like a KO combo. He has to stop the fight and make a ruling immediately. Currently there is no instant replay rule in effect for MMA so I dont believe he had the option of overturning his decision after seeing the big screen replay. I dont feel he is at fault.

Alot of people don't think about that, the ref not being able to see replays and such. He has one angle to see it from and once chance to see it unlike us behind screens.

**Hett** · 07-21-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jtaylor42

However, I really dont know if all the criticism of Mazzagatti is warranted. He was on the back side of the poke and uppercut so to him it looked like a KO combo. He has to stop the fight and make a ruling immediately. Currently there is no instant replay rule in effect for MMA so I dont believe he had the option of overturning his decision after seeing the big screen replay. I dont feel he is at fault.

Have you ever seen somebody scream like that when taking a legitimate punch? Between Johnson screaming, Burns standing their because he knew he poked him in the eye and Burns repeated eye pokes, he should have known something wasn't legitimate when he Johnson turned over and wasn't unconscious

Wasn't the Gray Maynard fight originally ruled by the ref one outcome, then ruled a NC on the spot after seeing what really happened?

**JT42** · 07-21-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hett

Have you ever seen somebody scream like that when taking a legitimate punch? Between Johnson screaming, Burns standing their because he knew he poked him in the eye and Burns repeated eye pokes, he should have known something wasn't legitimate when he Johnson turned over and wasn't unconscious

Wasn't the Gray Maynard fight originally ruled by the ref one outcome, then ruled a NC on the spot after seeing what really happened?

We dont know what Mazzagatti heard or saw. Of course its really loud in an event so who knows if he heard Johnson scream or how he interpreted that. Also, there are many instances when a fighter knocks someone down and just stands there thinking the fight is over so I am not sure Steve would have thought there was another poke. And many fighters stand up and complain their fight was stopped even when its legitimate.

All I am saying is he had to make a quick stoppage and call on the fight and from his perspective it very well could have looked like a KO. I dont think we should rag on him as the ref for missing the call. However, we should absolutely rag on the NSAC if they dont take action since they are able to review footage and see the clear foul.

**Halebop** · 07-21-2008, 08:11 PM

If each fighter had to be cleared to fight, which is the case, then someone would have had to ask Eyepoke Burns if there was any injury or condition that might preclude him from fighting in the fight. He obviously said "nope!" good to go, I'm 100%.

Then in the after interview he plainly admits that he was striking with an open palm because he couldn't make a fist. Surely that was info that should have been disclosed. That would make him guilty of making false statements to the athletic commission and he should be punished.

And open palm strikes should be banned. Its just to easy to turn this ***** move into a dangerous cowardly move, the eyepoke. The door shouldn't even be open to make the mistake.