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post #31 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-06-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bbjd7 View Post
Rush fan Hicks was battling as MMA fans we can't have it both ways.

People complain about stoppages like Miller vs Grispi but want fights like Varner and Hicks to be stopped sooner.

Maz didn't do a bad job in this fight Hicks is just really a tough guy and wouldn't get put down for a long time.
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I agree, he is a very tough guy. Even when the fight was finally stopped, he was still conscious. He showed an excellent chin, he just needs to work on his recovering. He couldn't regain his composure and seemed to desperate for that takedown when he was hurt which is a natural reaction from anyone who gets rocked.

Impressive win for Varner.
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I agree completely. Hicks is extremely tough and recovers in mere seconds, even after the final knockout blow. I think the refs are too quick to stop fights these days and applaud Steve for another outstanding job of reffing this fight.
The fight had gone out of Hicks well before the fight was stopped. Hicks was far too hurt to effect any further take downs and Varner was always going to demolish an injured and standing Hicks.
The way I see it it is a simple decision to make:
Preventing serious injury to semi-conscious fighter > Crowd seeing brutal KO

I think we can agree that images like Williams KO of Coleman are bad for the sport. Enough big KO's occur where both guys are still "in the fight" all I'm saying is that when a guy becomes a sitting duck he should be protected.
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post #32 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-07-2008, 11:05 AM
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You can't just stop a fight because you think Hicks can't win anymore.

If that was the case Nog would've had a ton of TKO losses by now.

Fighters can make comebacks and if they don't get a chance it is unfair.

Hicks could've survived look at what happened in Varner vs Razor. Hicks got rocked and survived came back and won.
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post #33 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
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how do you work on your recovery-in training? do you practice getting knocked around? Hicks was a game fighter but for all of his efforts, Varner didn't stay down-he got up at least 3 times. As for Varner, that was quite a show-I wasn't too impressed with him at the Razor fight b/c Razor sucks. Varner put a display on Hicks.
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