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Old 08-15-2008, 03:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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"I think his original point was that although pro wrestling does produce injuries, the point of pro wrestling is to perform synchronized acrobatics in which each wrestler does his best to NOT hurt the other guy... MMA is the opposite.

Sure, pro wrestlers get hurt, but in MMA a fighter can expect to go to the hospital after most of their fights unless they are one of the tiny % that is so good (like anderson silva) that they can finish a fight without takin a serious injury on a regular basis."


Yeah. My other point was a former wrestler can't say anything about the planning and setting up of WWE events even after retirement. We can see it from Lesnar's answers, how he can't clearly answer some questions. I guess he's still under a contract with WWE somehow.
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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In pro wrestling you can expect to go to the hospital as well, i mean cmon jumping do back flips off of a ring onto tiny mats, or through splintered tables is extremely dangerous, i can tell you this, the death toll is pro wrestling compared to MMA is much higher, take that into consideration before saying pro wrestling is easier.
if you're trying to suggest that they go to the hospital eveyr night after performing... 300 nights a year... cmon.

Also, I'm not really sure how death tolls are all the relevant. Mostly when pro wrestlers die its the result of freak accident or accumulated heart trauma from drugs and steroids...

Also pro wrestling has been going about forty years longer than MMA. That's a lot more time to rack up casualties.
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Old 08-15-2008, 04:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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"In pro wrestling you can expect to go to the hospital as well, i mean cmon jumping do back flips off of a ring onto tiny mats, or through splintered tables is extremely dangerous, i can tell you this, the death toll is pro wrestling compared to MMA is much higher, take that into consideration before saying pro wrestling is easier."

"jumping.. back flips..."

You just said it my friend, WWE guys are stuntmen.
Don't get me wrong though, I was a big WWF fan (when I was 10).

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"In pro wrestling you can expect to go to the hospital as well, i mean cmon jumping do back flips off of a ring onto tiny mats, or through splintered tables is extremely dangerous, i can tell you this, the death toll is pro wrestling compared to MMA is much higher, take that into consideration before saying pro wrestling is easier."

"jumping.. back flips..."

You just said it my friend, WWE guys are stuntmen.
Don't get me wrong though, I was a big WWF fan (when I was 10).

I remember a few Hardy Boys ladder matches from years ago where some of those falls had to be a little painful at the very least lol.
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Yeah. My other point was a former wrestler can't say anything about the planning and setting up of WWE events even after retirement. We can see it from Lesnar's answers, how he can't clearly answer some questions. I guess he's still under a contract with WWE somehow.
Um, no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5RDQCTOsXA

I had to come back and edit this, you can't be serious? You didn't actually mean what you said did you? Pro-Wrestlers do shoot interviews all the time, even before they retire. What are you talking about?

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"jumping.. back flips..."

You just said it my friend, WWE guys are stuntmen.
Don't get me wrong though, I was a big WWF fan (when I was 10).
Professional wrestling is far more dangerous than MMA. It's not even close.

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Um, no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5RDQCTOsXA

I had to come back and edit this, you can't be serious? You didn't actually mean what you said did you? Pro-Wrestlers do shoot interviews all the time, even before they retire. What are you talking about?



Professional wrestling is far more dangerous than MMA. It's not even close.
Are you kidding? Lesnar said in the video: "They're getting hurt, not every night, but it happens". It happens yeah. Just likes stuntmen happen to get hurt in some movies.
WWE guys can sometimes get hurt because they have to throw each other in spectacular acrobatics to make the show. Most of them are so huge (many under steroids btw) so they can throw the opponent and also get minimum hurt when thrown. The goal is to give minimum damage to the partner but still provide a good show but in MMA you want to hurt the opponent the maximum to weaken them and get a KO or submission.
If you think WWE is more dangerous than UFC, then answer this question: why Lesnar performs so much less in the UFC as he used to do with WWE? Because eventhough the guy is strong, he'd die after a few weeks in the octogon, receiving punches, elbows and knees in the face every other night.

Also it's not like he gave an obvious answer on the setting up of events or script writing, so my point still stands. You get sued if you talk about that.
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:04 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Many pro wrestlers are or addicited to pain killer or drugs, which they take to work thru the pain. Many pro wrestlers have dropped dead in recent years and a lot of them have been thru heart failure. Which is a sign of serious drug use through out life.

Steve Austin damn near broke his neck, Chris Benoit did break his neck, as did Kurt Angle. Davey Boy crushed two vertabrae, Shawn Michaels needed to have two vertabrae fused.

These are just a few of the injuries I can remember off the top of my head.
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Angle broke his neck doing ncaa wrestling not pro
Benoit actually broke sabus neck too i think

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if you're trying to suggest that they go to the hospital eveyr night after performing... 300 nights a year... cmon.

Also, I'm not really sure how death tolls are all the relevant. Mostly when pro wrestlers die its the result of freak accident or accumulated heart trauma from drugs and steroids...

Also pro wrestling has been going about forty years longer than MMA. That's a lot more time to rack up casualties.

Pro wrestling has been going on a lot longer than fourty years.
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"In pro wrestling you can expect to go to the hospital as well, i mean cmon jumping do back flips off of a ring onto tiny mats, or through splintered tables is extremely dangerous, i can tell you this, the death toll is pro wrestling compared to MMA is much higher, take that into consideration before saying pro wrestling is easier."

"jumping.. back flips..."

You just said it my friend, WWE guys are stuntmen.
Don't get me wrong though, I was a big WWF fan (when I was 10).

Pro wrestlers in the united states are members of the actors guild .And yes they get injured maybe not severe ones every night but the fact is you cant take those landings night in and night out and not take some bumps and bruises and they add up.

Bubba ray devon has taken several concussions and ironically so has lesnar.His match against angle where he missed the shooting star press and landed on his head.Yes the big lug went for a shooting star press.
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How long then? I'm interested since it just further proves that particular point i was making
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Are you kidding? Lesnar said in the video: "They're getting hurt, not every night, but it happens". It happens yeah. Just likes stuntmen happen to get hurt in some movies.
WWE guys can sometimes get hurt because they have to throw each other in spectacular acrobatics to make the show. Most of them are so huge (many under steroids btw) so they can throw the opponent and also get minimum hurt when thrown. The goal is to give minimum damage to the partner but still provide a good show but in MMA you want to hurt the opponent the maximum to weaken them and get a KO or submission.
If you think WWE is more dangerous than UFC, then answer this question: why Lesnar performs so much less in the UFC as he used to do with WWE? Because eventhough the guy is strong, he'd die after a few weeks in the octogon, receiving punches, elbows and knees in the face every other night.

Also it's not like he gave an obvious answer on the setting up of events or script writing, so my point still stands. You get sued if you talk about that.
That's the point, it's more dangerous because they are taking those bumps every other night.
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How long then? I'm interested since it just further proves that particular point i was making
since early 1900s at least gotch vs hackensmidt the second match and afterwards is when things started going towards works more.Carnival matches had been happening throughout the us for while before that.
And the fact is most the deaths that your hinting at regards to drugs and that sort of stuff didnt happen during matches (exhibitions is what theyre classified under) mostly during training adn theyre everyday lives.
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