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Old 08-16-2008, 12:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why is BJ Penn thought so highly of

Perfectly aware that I'm going to get a backlash for this, and most answers will be signed with a hint of Jackass, I'm genuinely curious.
Why is BJ thought to be such an imposing force. One of the biggest arguments people make when someone says Anderson Silva has four losses on his record so he can't be the best p4p, yet BJ has 4 losses. He's also inconsistent, yet another fighter that everyone says "We'll see which BJ shows up". And he felt he needed to retreat to 155 to be champion rather than toughing it out in the division he clearly wants to be in.
So... what's the big deal with this guy? Seriously?
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The division he wanted to be in?

BJ Penn is a 155er.

And you know why he is so highly thought of, don't ask stupid questions.

I'm not even a fan of the guy, but this is retarded.
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Perfectly aware that I'm going to get a backlash for this, and most answers will be signed with a hint of Jackass, I'm genuinely curious.
Why is BJ thought to be such an imposing force. One of the biggest arguments people make when someone says Anderson Silva has four losses on his record so he can't be the best p4p, yet BJ has 4 losses. He's also inconsistent, yet another fighter that everyone says "We'll see which BJ shows up". And he felt he needed to retreat to 155 to be champion rather than toughing it out in the division he clearly wants to be in.
So... what's the big deal with this guy? Seriously?
I wont bash on ya. You make a good point. It makes me sick thinking he might get a shot at GSP. Once he clearly takes out the lw division then yes maybe kinda like faber has pretty much takn out the feartherwight division. If he wants the shot now he should have to forfiet the lw belt. we shouldnt have to weight 6months to a year for a fricken tltle defense get real. Dudes still a badass though.

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Old 08-16-2008, 12:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Perfectly aware that I'm going to get a backlash for this, and most answers will be signed with a hint of Jackass, I'm genuinely curious.
Why is BJ thought to be such an imposing force. One of the biggest arguments people make when someone says Anderson Silva has four losses on his record so he can't be the best p4p, yet BJ has 4 losses. He's also inconsistent, yet another fighter that everyone says "We'll see which BJ shows up". And he felt he needed to retreat to 155 to be champion rather than toughing it out in the division he clearly wants to be in.
So... what's the big deal with this guy? Seriously?
Watch out, Clover. You're gonna get negged hard for this sacrelidge.

But you make good points, so here's a +rep to help balance out.

Penn does not deserve GSP.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I dislike Penn's childish, self centered attitude and he deserves a shot at GSP about as much as I do right now but to answer your question:

He is well regarded because he is one of the first complete, true MMA fighters. He does everything well. Good striker with heavy hands for his size, quick, amazing TDD and on the ground some of the best BJJ in the world. He also has demonstrated that he can not only take a shot but he shrugs it off. He never seems to get hurt. If he had trained the way he does now for his whole career and stayed at LW he sure wouldn't have 4 losses.

Too bad he is such a douche.
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Watch out, Clover. You're gonna get negged hard for this sacrelidge.

But you make good points, so here's a +rep to help balance out.

Penn does not deserve GSP.
I know it man. I fully expect it all though I'm asking in the most genuine since, contrary to what the first comment implies. I really don't get it.
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BJ is one of the greatest BJJ practitioners in the MMA and was the first non Brazilian to ever win Mundials. He exploded onto the MMA scene and has been good ever since.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I dislike Penn's childish, self centered attitude and he deserves a shot at GSP about as much as I do right now but to answer your question:

He is well regarded because he is one of the first complete, true MMA fighters. He does everything well. Good striker with heavy hands for his size, quick, amazing TDD and on the ground some of the best BJJ in the world. He also has demonstrated that he can not only take a shot but he shrugs it off. He never seems to get hurt. If he had trained the way he does now for his whole career and stayed at LW he sure wouldn't have 4 losses.

Too bad he is such a douche.
That does make sense, I guess I just expect champions to carry themselves at another level not only as competitors but as ambassadors. Like GSP, Forrest, and especially Silva and Nog, BJ does not.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Let's see, on top of being the quickest American to get a black belt in Jui-Jitsu, tool Judo blackbelts as a white belt, actively compete and win at the black belt level in jui jitsu, BJ has a lot of other qualities to being an MMA fighter. On top of his excellent grappling creds, he has a rock solid chin, dangerous strikes, crazy power for a small dude and incredible TDD. On top of that, people really started to love the guy when he stopped giving a shit about the sport and took a bad ass approach. And even more when he decided he wanted to be the greatest and started to take it serious again. Not to mention he has no problem fighting 205'ers and talking trash to sell a fight.
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