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View Poll Results: Who will be the HW champ when it's all said and done?
Randy Couture 12 14.29%
Brock Lesnar 19 22.62%
Nog 50 59.52%
Frank Mir 3 3.57%
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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 09-12-2008, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
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Lets talk about the HW tournament

The UFC decided to hold a 4 man tourney, that I assume will span over 2-3 shows to unify the HW belt. I know this is old news, but it definetly warrents discussion.

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Couture Vs. Lesnar
Nog Vs. Mir

This could be very interesting not just because Couture is back with the UFC and is facing a green but physically gifted opponent in Brock Lesnar. But if Brock wins and Mir pulls off the upset we can have a rematch between the 2. Couture vs Nog, which is the concensus pick will be a very interesting fight, both guys are living legends who have shocked the world on numerous occasions, this would be a classic battle that is very hard to pick. Lesnar Vs. Nog is a very interesting fight in it's own right. Kinda reminds me of Nog vs Sapp.

Wether or not it's fair or unfair to certain fighters this makes what was a very dull and shallow HW division all of a sudden very interesting.

I'm really excited about this and am picking Nog to win it all.


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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 09-12-2008, 07:59 PM
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I want Lesnar v Nog.
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post #3 of 37 (permalink) Old 09-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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i really don't know how Mir is going to beat Nog....i really can't think of how he would do that...he gasses badly, has bad striking, bad takedowns, and an aggressive top game, which could be used by Nog to pass his guard....

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Yeah I have no question about Nog being in the final. The Lesnar/Couture fight could go either way IMO but right now I am leaning towards Couture.

I think Nog would win either but in very different ways. He would likely have to take Couture to a decision b/c Randy would play conservative. Lesnar would be subbed one way or another pretty quickly

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I see Nog taking this one as well. I can't think of an outcome of Mir beating Nog at all. He is not gonna get a submission on him, the only way he can win in knock out a man that has never been finished even against Fedor or Cro Cop. And as aaroonyman said his striking is brutal. I think Randy beats Lesnar, but comes short against Nog in a classic.
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Man, i am so amped for this tourny,
I wanna see Brock beat Couture, but not to the extent of missing out on Nog v Couture, because IMO, that's the best fight that can be made in the UFC as of present...

I can't think of a strength Mir has against Nog. Like they say, everyone has a 'punchers chance' but you don't against Nog, cause he can't be KO'ed (ask Fedor, Sapp, Cro Cop, Herring, Sylvia..the list goes on). And with Travis Lutter being released from the UFC, Mir has the worst gas tank in all of the UFC (except shogun....JKS )

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I want to say nog, but I had to pick brock because nog never faced someone like him before.And no, sapp is nothing like brock.
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Yea, Sapp is nothing like Lesnar. Lesnar is much faster and stronger.

I want to see Lesnar get inside Randy's guard and just pick him up and slam him.
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Randy Couture will shock the world again. He is CAPTAIN AMERICA!
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Lesnar's strength, size and athleticism may very well be enough to defeat Randy, although the fight will be predicated on whether or not Couture can take him down. I'm more than certain that Randy has a substantial advantage over Brock when it comes to just about every facet, but the physical difference between the two (60 lbs is a damn lot), along with Brock's durability, could decide the outcome of the fight.

It should also be taken into account that Couture hasn't fought in over a year, and at his age inactivity to that degree could prove to be detrimental to him from a physical standpoint. On the flip side, Brock is still very short on experience, but it's more than adequate to say that Couture is twice the fighter Herring is, with all due respect.

It's an already known commodity that Brock has power in his hands, but we haven't seen enough of him on the feet to incite whether or not he beats Randy there. Lesnar needs to avoid the fight from entering Randy's world, in the clinch. If Couture goads the shot and gets within clinch range, Brock is in serious trouble. He's a virtual unknown off his back, but I would suspect Randy finishes the fight there convincingly if he's successful with the trips.

This fight will in all likelihood be determined on whether or not Randy can get the takedowns. If he can, Brock's in for a long night, if not I can definitely see Lesnar putting Randy into ambiguity.

As for Nog/Lesnar, Brock is far too inexperienced to be matched up against such a technically endowed jitz dude that, odds are, would leave the cage with a limb. Not a smart match-up in terms of constructively building Brock's stature along with legitimizing his role in the division, but his mainstream popularity from professional wrestling negates that to begin with.

Given the many intangibles, Couture/Lesnar is a coin flip depending on who will get the takedowns. Although until further notice, we have all the incentive in the world to believe that Brock will get tapped by just about any technical BJJ player, Nog very much included in that crowd.

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