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post #11 of 125 (permalink) Old 09-22-2008, 04:42 PM
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low kicks, alot of low kicks.

Rich Franklin made a good job against Hamil, doing both damage and stopping take downs.

But I have never really seen Randy do low kicks...
and most of brock's takedowns have come from grabbing a kick...i wouldn't recommend that
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A submission is hardly out of the question. Randy has very underrated submission skills. He had a sweet ass anaconda choke on Van Arsdale a couple years back and grappled Jacare to a draw.

I could see Lesnar getting sloppy as the fight gets into the latter rounds and Randy slapping something on him or maybe taking his back.

But the more I think of this fight, the more and more I give Lesnar a good chance at winning the fight. Randy doesnt like fighting big strong wrestlers.




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low kicks, alot of low kicks.

Rich Franklin made a good job against Hamil, doing both damage and stopping take downs.

But I have never really seen Randy do low kicks...
I've seen Lesnar do low kicks...

to OP: This fight isn't hard to figure out, it only seems that way if you start to over think it. Trust your grasp of the obvious; theres no way for Randy to win this fight.

He's going to get murdalized, and once its over people will be left wondering what they thought Couture was going to be able to do.

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low kicks, alot of low kicks.

Rich Franklin made a good job against Hamil, doing both damage and stopping take downs.

But I have never really seen Randy do low kicks...
He's never been a big kicker, plus Lesnar is faster than Hamil. Did you see him catch Herring's kick, and Herring is known as a guy with pretty good kicks.
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Randy will have to come up with a great gameplan for this fight, like he always does. The way I see Randy winning is with Lesnar on his back against the cage with Randy working the GnP from Lesnar's full or half gaurd. Or Lesnar with his back against the cage but on his feet and Randy working his dirty boxing.

Randy knows he's gotta use the cage to control a man as big as Lesnar and that is exactly what I see happening.
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I kinda want to see what happens if Lesnar ever gets put on his back. I imagine he will be tough to keep down because he is so strong and explosive.
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Nobody is gonna finish anyone in this fight. I see Randy winning this, and I see him employing the same technique he used against Gonzaga and Sylvia. He outworks the bigger fighter, clings on, uses his wrestling and super human strength to just hold on and chip away at the other guy.

Sure, Lesnar has phenomenal strength and wrestling, but this is MMA and I don't think he can quite put it all together the way Randy can. Plus, Brock doesn't have the same striking/top control/GnP as Ricco or Barnett, so I doubt he will have Couture in that kind of trouble.

Thus I see Randy winning a very hard fought and meticulous decision.
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I certainly WANT Randy to win... But I don't see how.

I really hate Brock.

I'll be very happy to see Randy win this, but I see a very anti-climactic battle here, with Randy getting pounded out early.

I don't necessarilly think Brock is the "better fighter", but as we all know, styles make fights. And his particular skillset and abilities are going to take Randy out of this fight early IMO.

I'm not putting any money on this fight, but if I were, it would be on Brock.




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I'm just wondering if everyone is actually watching Brock's fights or just coming up with biased opinions based on whether they like him or not.

His wrestling isn't that good people. Watch his takedowns they aren't anything special and I don't see him getting Couture down.

Most of his takedowns came on crappy kicks from Herring. And one of them came on a shitty Judo throw. Herring actually stuffed one of his takedowns in round 2.

People are assuming Brock is a great wrestler because of his background and while he is very strong and a good wrestler he defiantly isn't great.

I think Randy will beat him and honestly ATM I don't think he is one of the 4 best wrestlers in the UFC HW divison.
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I'm just wondering if everyone is actually watching Brock's fights or just coming up with biased opinions based on whether they like him or not.

His wrestling isn't that good people. Watch his takedowns they aren't anything special and I don't see him getting Couture down.

Most of his takedowns came on crappy kicks from Herring. And one of them came on a shitty Judo throw. Herring actually stuffed one of his takedowns in round 2.

People are assuming Brock is a great wrestler because of his background and while he is very strong and a good wrestler he defiantly isn't great.

I think Randy will beat him and honestly ATM I don't think he is one of the 4 best wrestlers in the UFC HW divison.
It's nice to see someone bringing this point up again. I'm sick of the blind nuthuggery on Lesnar. Anyway, agreed completely.
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