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Old 09-29-2008, 06:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Jardine's technique is under developed, his main advantage is others don't take him seriously or bother dealing with his style - but aggressive fighters just blast through it anyway... Still I like him
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I keith is a great fighter probably one of the best. I think he has the ability to someday be a champ but he has one huge problem and that is that he gets way too excited.

I originally thought he was going to win but when saw him step in the cage I said to my 2 friends I was watching "He is going to lose""he will get koed in the first round". When I saw him jumping around and screaming like he was I knew he was just going to run in full force and go for the early ko and trade blows with silva.

He talks about how he is a better fighter than silva and i believe he is and has top notch striking but all his skills don't mean a thing if he isn't going to use them and just rush in like he did with Silva and with alexander. If he fights the way he fought chuck where he stays back and feels out his opponent and breaks them down with kicks I think he would do great but he cant let his emotions get the best of him.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Keith Jardine is the definition of a gatekeeper.
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Keith Jardine is the definition of a gatekeeper.
i couldnt disagree more
he has beat most of the top guys he faces but loses to guys like houston alexander
thats pretty much the opposite
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It's a matter of Jardine wilting under pressure against aggressive strikers that are going to push the pace. Houston brought the fight to Jardine immediately once the fight began...
Good call G-S-P.
When a fighter comes at him aggressive they have better luck.
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I keith is a great fighter probably one of the best. I think he has the ability to someday be a champ but he has one huge problem and that is that he gets way too excited.

I originally thought he was going to win but when saw him step in the cage I said to my 2 friends I was watching "He is going to lose""he will get koed in the first round". When I saw him jumping around and screaming like he was I knew he was just going to run in full force and go for the early ko and trade blows with silva.

He talks about how he is a better fighter than silva and i believe he is and has top notch striking but all his skills don't mean a thing if he isn't going to use them and just rush in like he did with Silva and with alexander. If he fights the way he fought chuck where he stays back and feels out his opponent and breaks them down with kicks I think he would do great but he cant let his emotions get the best of him.
this is basically how i feel too...with a few exceptions...

if keith jardine can just get his head straight and perform to the ability i know he's capable of, i truly believe he can be champion someday
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Keith Jardine may be inconsistant, but Brandon Vera is the most overhyped fighter in the UFC.
I agree 100%. If Vera takes this, it will be by a very lackluster decision. My points will be on the Dean.
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Isn't having a good head and being able to control your emotions part of what makes a champion fighter?

Personally I don't care for Jardine, I think he is WAY to cocky; before his Wanderlei fight he was saying "after I beat Silva I want my spot in MMA history." Not to discount Liddell and Griffin but what else has Jardine really done? If he wasn't in Jackson's camp he would be a sorry silly monkey fighter, and I know fighters have to be confident but they can also be humble, respectful, and appreciative of their trainers and those who help them come up with game plans. I would like to see him fight Anderson Silva so we can see how skilled he really is!
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Isn't having a good head and being able to control your emotions part of what makes a champion fighter?

Personally I don't care for Jardine, I think he is WAY to cocky; before his Wanderlei fight he was saying "after I beat Silva I want my spot in MMA history." Not to discount Liddell and Griffin but what else has Jardine really done? If he wasn't in Jackson's camp he would be a sorry silly monkey fighter, and I know fighters have to be confident but they can also be humble, respectful, and appreciative of their trainers and those who help them come up with game plans. I would like to see him fight Anderson Silva so we can see how skilled he really is!
Hmmm I could be wrong but I remember Jardine sounding very grateful to get a chance to fight two of the greatest in the sports history. I thought what he said was more along the lines of "imagine if I beat Chuck then Wanderlei, that would solidify a spot for me in MMA history".
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Isn't having a good head and being able to control your emotions part of what makes a champion fighter?

Personally I don't care for Jardine, I think he is WAY to cocky; before his Wanderlei fight he was saying "after I beat Silva I want my spot in MMA history." Not to discount Liddell and Griffin but what else has Jardine really done? If he wasn't in Jackson's camp he would be a sorry silly monkey fighter, and I know fighters have to be confident but they can also be humble, respectful, and appreciative of their trainers and those who help them come up with game plans. I would like to see him fight Anderson Silva so we can see how skilled he really is!
he's also beaten wilson gouevaia....who was a top LHW before he got tko'd to 185....great fight btw

he also lost to stephan bonnar in one of the worst judged fights in ufc history...jardine beat bonnar by most fans judgement

mike whitehead was highly touted as well...and jardine defended his td's and won a decision...
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