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Old 09-30-2008, 01:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Tim Sylvia almost never cuts. He always comes in like 3-4 pounds under the limit. If he ever had to cut it was on like 1-3 pounds.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:31 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Tim Sylvia almost never cuts. He always comes in like 3-4 pounds under the limit. If he ever had to cut it was on like 1-3 pounds.
Not from what I've read. Quite a few sites said Tim was 280 on fight night against Fedor, so he had a 50lb advantage. It didn't help him much though.
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Not from what I've read. Quite a few sites said Tim was 280 on fight night against Fedor, so he had a 50lb advantage. It didn't help him much though.

Sylvia is not that big and hasn't been for several years. From what I remeber he was a few punds under the 265 limit in the Fedor fight.
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Sylvia is not that big and hasn't been for several years. From what I remeber he was a few punds under the 265 limit in the Fedor fight.
Not that big? He's 6-8! Doesn't matter what he weighed in at, fight night is a whole another story. Big guys like him can put on a lot of weight easy overnight. Google for "Fedor Tim Sylvia 280" and you'll see the articles I'm talking about. BTW, wasn't the steroid he got busted for using for cutting weight?

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Not that big? He's 6-8! Doesn't matter what he weighed in at, fight night is a whole another story. Big guys like him can put on weight a lot of weight easy overnight. Google for "Fedor Tim Sylvia 280" and you'll see the articles I'm talking about.

He is not that big weight wise. When he came into the UFC he was less than 260. His last few fights he came in at around 261-263. If he cut weight from 280 he would have came in at 265 or 266 not 2-4 pounds less as it would serve no point to cut that extra weight once you've already made weight.
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He is not that big weight wise. When he came into the UFC he was less than 260. His last few fights he came in at around 261-263. If he cut weight from 280 he would have came in at 265 or 266 not 2-4 pounds less as it would serve no point to cut that extra weight once you've already made weight.
Sorry but your logic is flawed, everything is based off the weigh ins. Guys can do crazy things to lose weight. I don't know what Tim was when he started the UFC, but he doesn't walk around at 260 now. Your assumption is a guy has to cut to the exact limit for him to weigh more than that. A difference of 3 lbs (263 vs 266) is nothing for a guy his size. Think percentages when it comes to weight loss, not absolute numbers. Again, read the articles out there. Among others, Randy Couture said Tim is 280, do you know something he does not?

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I think Tim poses some interesting problems for anybody who wants to fight him, said the embattled champion. At six-foot-eight and 280 pounds, hes a seasoned veteran now; hes got some very good striking skills. I think he poses interesting problems for anybody.

One of the obvious glaring problems for Fedor going into a fight with Sylvia is the size difference between the two fighters, and Couture understands that could create problems for the Russian.

Fedors a lot more akin to my size, around 230 pounds, and I think he may even be a little shorter than I am. Im six-foot-one, he may be six-foot or even five-foot-eleven, he commented. Its interesting how Fedor just fought Hong Man Choi over New Years and thats a seven-foot tall guy, whos a lot heavier than Tim even, but probably not nearly as seasoned as Tim is, but still similar problems in the height and dealing with the range.
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Sorry but your logic is flawed, everything is based off the weigh ins. Guys can do crazy things to lose weight. I don't know what Tim was when he started the UFC, but he doesn't walk around at 260 now. Your assumption is a guy has to cut to the exact limit for him to weigh more than that. A difference of 3 lbs (263 vs 266) is nothing for a guy his size. Think percentages when it comes to weight loss, not absolute numbers. Again, read the articles out there. Among others, Randy Couture said Tim is 280, do you know something he does not?

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Your going by someones off handed comment. I'm going by their weigh in numbers.

Guys that cut weight don't cut 3-5 pounds below the limit of what they have to cut. They just don't. You don't see guy's who cut to make 170 weigh in at 166 or guy's who cut to make 205 weigh in at 201. There is no point to it. You cut only the amount you need to make weight.

If Sylvia does weigh in at 280 (which he doesn't) and has to cut 15 pounds to make weight he will come in at 265. Why would he cut an additional 3-4 pounds?
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Your going by someones off handed comment. I'm going by their weigh in numbers.

Guys that cut weight don't cut 3-5 pounds below the limit of what they have to cut. They just don't. You don't see guy's who cut to make 170 weigh in at 166 or guy's who cut to make 205 weigh in at 201. There is no point to it. You cut only the amount you need to make weight.

If Sylvia does weigh in at 280 (which he doesn't) and has to cut 15 pounds to make weight he will come in at 265. Why would he cut an additional 3-4 pounds?
To be absolutely sure? Because an extra pound or two isn't that big a deal at his size? Hell, I can cut 10 pounds in two days just by drinking a lot of alcohol (meaning I'm not even trying to cut weight) and I'm only 190 right now, with less fat than Timmy.

I think your logic is based on a very tenuous assumption. And I also read that he walks at 280.
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Your going by someones off handed comment. I'm going by their weigh in numbers.

Guys that cut weight don't cut 3-5 pounds below the limit of what they have to cut. They just don't. You don't see guy's who cut to make 170 weigh in at 166 or guy's who cut to make 205 weigh in at 201. There is no point to it. You cut only the amount you need to make weight.

If Sylvia does weigh in at 280 (which he doesn't) and has to cut 15 pounds to make weight he will come in at 265. Why would he cut an additional 3-4 pounds?
Actually I'm going by several articles that say Tim has to cut weight to make 265. I'm not sure why you find this so unbelievable?

You can't compare a HW with the smaller weight classes. Tim can take a shit and his weight will change by 5 pounds. I weigh half of what Tim does, and my weight will fluctuate during the day by +/- 2 pounds naturally. For someone 6-8, what do you think that fluctuation will be? You think he stops his cutting right when he hits 265? Again for guys his size, 3 pounds is nothing. If he weighs in at 262, you think he didn't have to cut any weight at all for the fight?
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Your going by someones off handed comment. I'm going by their weigh in numbers.

Guys that cut weight don't cut 3-5 pounds below the limit of what they have to cut. They just don't. You don't see guy's who cut to make 170 weigh in at 166 or guy's who cut to make 205 weigh in at 201. There is no point to it. You cut only the amount you need to make weight.

If Sylvia does weigh in at 280 (which he doesn't) and has to cut 15 pounds to make weight he will come in at 265. Why would he cut an additional 3-4 pounds?
you are very wrong....... just because a weight limit is set, it doesn't mean guys won't go under it.

take a look at nate marquadt. he's a HUGE middleweight but when he fought silva for the title, i believe he weighed in at 183 lbs. now why would he do that? who gives a shit why, he still did it.

now whether tim sylvia cuts or not.. i don't know. however, tim is HUGE, so if he were to cut, then he could easily go under because he is so big and can lose a lot of water.
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