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Old 09-30-2008, 11:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i wouldn't count on the WWE cracks ending anytime soon. its too good.

so why dont you put your money where your mouth is and sig bet?
It's not too good, its a sad little tool haters use to make themselves feel better about mean ol Lesnar taking over thier sport.

And yur on for a sig bet. I'm all in on Lesnar via destruction.

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Nah, not a graphic sig, we can just have a little "cplmac made me admit I was wrong about Lesnar" or whatever. you know. I won't choose anything foul, I'll try to make it funny, and I hope you'll do the same.

Anyway, I never said Lesnar doesn't belong in the UFC (he does, he is good enough to hang), but cmon, Lesnar via "anything he wants"? Only in WWE! Lesnar has displayed no submission skills. His only actual finish was by TKO against a complete can. he couldn't even finish Herring who isn't exactly a top-flight HW anymore.

In the UFC, Brock's only real chance of finishing Randy is via TKO or UD. He just doesn't have the subs or striking to finish it any other way right now, and certainly not to choose his method as if he was some kind of well-rounded MMA master. That was what the "only in the WWE" comment was about.

So, basically, we just shake on it here and wait with bated breath
but heres the thing; he has the time right now to practice whatever he wants. If he wants to finish Randy via knee bar, he can be focussing on that. And yeah, I think he'll get what he wants to get in that regard.

And if whatever he wants is to just ride Randy like a lil pony for 5 rounds and absorb as much information as he can, he'll do that. Theres no rule in MMA that you have to try and finnish the fight. I had a great time watching Brock control Herring, I wouldn't get bored watching him do it to Randy for five rounds.



So alright, when Brock wins your new sig =

"TheGamefather > Lesnar >>>> Fedor"



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See, its really hard to take you seriously when you say things like Lesnar is "taking over our sport" when he in fact has a 2-1 record, neither win against a top10 fighter. That's actually what we call a "beginner".

Anyway, I hope you'll enjoy wearing a giant diss on your favorite fighter in your sig for thirty days
His record is irrelivant chachie.

And 30 days? Thats pretty week. I say a year minimum.

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Old 09-30-2008, 11:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's not too good, its a sad little tool haters use to make themselves feel better about mean ol Lesnar taking over thier sport.

And yur on for a sig bet. I'm all in on Lesnar via destruction.
See, its really hard to take you seriously when you say things like Lesnar is "taking over our sport" when he in fact has a 2-1 record, neither win against a top10 fighter. That's actually what we call a "beginner".

Anyway, I hope you'll enjoy wearing a giant diss on your favorite fighter in your sig for thirty days

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And if whatever he wants is to just ride Randy like a lil pony for 5 rounds and absorb as much information as he can, he'll do that. Theres no rule in MMA that you have to try and finnish the fight. I had a great time watching Brock control Herring, I wouldn't get bored watching him do it to Randy for five rounds.
Um, I didn't say there was anything wrong with a UD, but you said Brock could finish it any way he wants to. Sorry if you genuinely don't understand why that statement is ridiculous. Maybe its the same reason Brock is your favorite fighter.

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Fine.

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His record is irrelivant chachie.

And 30 days? Thats pretty week. I say a year minimum.
Yeah, who cares about record when you're claiming someone is taking over a sport? lol are you drunk or something?

I love it. A guy who's been here about three weeks is trying to make sig plans for his next year. Uh, ok. I suspect you'll just plain leave the site if your guy loses, but I'll take that bet. A year it is.

edit: sorry guys, had to edit this together after he edited his earlier post to respond to my later stuff. which is why it looks a lil odd.

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Old 10-01-2008, 03:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So, basically, we just shake on it here and wait with bated breath
Good enough for me, I was going to keep it clean but make some kind of lame WWE endorsement sig or something. I wouldn't say Lesnar could win by anything he wants either, he's got NO sub game. I could definitely see him winning by three ways though, points, KO or stoppage. Really can't wait to see this fight though. Herring was a top ten HW when Lesnar beat him though.
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Old 10-01-2008, 03:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Good enough for me, I was going to keep it clean but make some kind of lame WWE endorsement sig or something. I wouldn't say Lesnar could win by anything he wants either, he's got NO sub game. I could definitely see him winning by three ways though, points, KO or stoppage. Really can't wait to see this fight though. Herring was a top ten HW when Lesnar beat him though.
Cool gotta point out though, he was pretty borderline. He might have been in some top 10's then. But many didn't have him in top10. Who were his wins? I don't count Goodridge, Imes, or McGee for much, Kerr was a basketcase at the time of his loss, Nog is awesome but three losses in a row against an awesome opponent still can't be weighted heavily, so in the last eight years I think Vovchanchyh and Kongo were his only real meaningful wins. I dunno, I think whether Lesnar has yet beaten a top10 is still debatable. Hea definitely hasn't beaten a champion of the sport like Randy yet.

Either way, glad to take this bet, best of luck to you
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HexRei dont diss Brocks fans man. Cmon hes my fav fighter too. I think this should be a good fight. Ill always love Capt. America but Lesnar is my boy so I hope he wins. I think people that compare Lesnar to Sylvia or Gonzaga are fools though. Lesnar is much stronger and more athletic than both so just cuz Couture beat them doesn't mean he will beat Lesnar. Although he could I think his chances are less.
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Thank god

Thank god there are some people with some sense in their brains. I just got out of this "this Couture/Lesnar fight has me really confused", and all these people were talking about the many ways Lesnar has to beat Couture, and how there is no way that Couture can win. All I have to say to that is...honestly, you're joking, right? I don't believe any person who has seen Randy Couture fight (even once) and seen Brock Lesnar fight (be it WWE or MMA, and yes, that WWE stuff is going to be funny until he really proves himself) you cannot honestly believe Lesnar has anything but a punchers chance. Now, that is the only thing I will give you, Lesnar is a HUGE strong dude, and as shown in his fight with Heath, he can put a ton of power behind his shots, but that's all he has. I understand he's huge, but in terms of wrestling, he doesn't stand a chance! Are you kidding? He's Randy f'ing Couture, the man is the best wrestler in the sport, bar none. And I understand just looking at their size you may thing Lesnar is going to dominate the wrestling, but you really can't judge it on that until they get in the cage because everyone talks about Randy, and what's it's like when he gets his arms around you, and Brock what? Wrestled in college? wow, big dog, Randy's been INTEGRATING his wrestling into an mma game for years now, and he's going to dominate the clinch and the ground. As I said before Brock's only chance is landing a huge punch, and good luck with that, as shown by his fight with big Tim his boxing looks incredible, great head movement, quick sharp punches, I would give the advantage to Randy in the stand up. So to sum up, how many times does he have to prove that he's the best heavyweight in the world (barring Fedor, he's god), for people to stop thinking he's the f'ing underdog. I would take the money of ANYONE who watched mma little enough to honestly believe that Brock "WWE" Lesnar would beat Randy "The Natural" Couture in any legitimate arena.
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Brock what? Wrestled in college? wow, big dog, Randy's been INTEGRATING his wrestling into an mma game for years now, and he's going to dominate the clinch and the ground.
Lesnar didn't just wrestle in college. He was the division 1 NCAA heavyweight champion! twice!
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Its a great fight for Lesnar. He has everything to gain and nothing to loose. What will people say if Cotoure stops him? nothing he is a relative begginer in MMA and is Champions.
The worry for Cotoure in my limited opinion will be age and size. i know everyone has been saying about his age for years but one day it will catch up with him and he has been inactive for a while now. While that might/could be a good thing for the rest injuries etc he could also be rusty and Lesnar is so so big if he gets him down will Cotoure be able to get back up and will be become another Herring and unable to move.Cotoure will have been working on submissions from the guard but will he be strong enough to hold them and how much have Lesnar move forward since the Mir fight.
I would imagine Randy will keep it on his feet and try to do to him what he did ti Liddell in the first fight which could turn the fight into a matador events with Brock charging and Randy picking him off.
Expierence could well be the key thing in later rounds and will Brocks huge muscluar body be able to get enough air when they get to the championship rounds
Hopfully it will be another page in the Captain America book on how to defy father time.

Lesnar could well turn into a future chapmion though and a few months training with Cotoure would help in no end
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