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Randy looked better against Big Tim and Napao than he'd ever looked IMO.
I'm not sure how he'll perform against Brock due to his recent inactivity but you can't cite his recent performances as signs of Randy slowing down or looking weaker because that's simply not the case.
I'm not trying to all-out diss Couture. But I think he's gonna go down big time. Don't think he was at his best against Tim and Napao, though... the opposite. I think he's seen brighter days.
I'm not trying to all-out diss Couture. But I think he's gonna go down big time. Don't think he was at his best against Tim and Napao, though... the opposite. I think he's seen brighter days.
Brighter days against who exactly???
Like I said I'm picking Randy but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brock won so I'm not dismissing your view that Brock will take this but I honestly don't see where you're coming from with regard to Randy's recent fights.
He showed way better overall standup against Sylvia and Gonzaga than I'd ever seen from him, he actually looked like a striker out there, much more loose and using that head movement which we'd never seen from him before.
Maybe he just looked slower to you cos he was at HW again not 205 but I thought he managed to retain a lot of the his speed and cardio from his LHW days whilst still out outmuscling two bigger stronger fighters.
I don't think he'll be able to outmuscle Brock in that way but I do think Randys ending up on top at some point where I think he could damage Brock for the remainder of the fight or even finish him.
Maybe he just looked slower to you cos he was at HW again not 205 but I thought he managed to retain a lot of the his speed and cardio from his LHW days whilst still out outmuscling two bigger stronger fighters.
I don't know, man, maybe it was that. You're making a valid point there, it's hard for me to tell, but maybe it was just a different perception. Hell, I've never been avid about Couture so maybe my memory's playing tricks.
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I don't think he'll be able to outmuscle Brock in that way but I do think Randys ending up on top at some point where I think he could damage Brock for the remainder of the fight or even finish him.
I'm not saying that Brock has the fight in his pocket and either way this is going to be a rough fight for both. Which is gonna make it a killer spectacle. I think I'm even more excited about the spectacle than about Brock winning or Randy winning or whatever.
The scenario you're describing could happen but think that Brock will probably expect that situation. Randy has his strong points and Brock probably already knows them so he's gonna be doubling on the watch.
Imagine Lesnar fighting against Fedor, he will not stand for more then 2 minutes, and here in the UFC he can be a champion. for my opinion Randy will loose because he has a real size and strength disadvantage. but still Lesnar isn't a real heavy weight champion. I want to see fedor in the UFC.
I don't know, man, maybe it was that. You're making a valid point there, it's hard for me to tell, but maybe it was just a different perception. Hell, I've never been avid about Couture so maybe my memory's playing tricks.
I'm not saying that Brock has the fight in his pocket and either way this is going to be a rough fight for both. Which is gonna make it a killer spectacle. I think I'm even more excited about the spectacle than about Brock winning or Randy winning or whatever.
The scenario you're describing could happen but think that Brock will probably expect that situation. Randy has his strong points and Brock probably already knows them so he's gonna be doubling on the watch.
Theres one hell of a gap between knowing about something, and being able to do something about it. And Brock doesnt have the experience to do much about some of the things Randy will throw his way. The cage will work against Brock in this fight, and i have a feeling Brock is going to assume the opposite.
Theres one hell of a gap between knowing about something, and being able to do something about it. And Brock doesnt have the experience to do much about some of the things Randy will throw his way. The cage will work against Brock in this fight, and i have a feeling Brock is going to assume the opposite.
That's true, but being prepared for a situation sure does help. I think that mostly Brock will have to out-endure Randy, that's going to be the big challenge, but like I've said a dozen of times already, I really do believe he's gonna pull it off with skill.
That's true, but being prepared for a situation sure does help. I think that mostly Brock will have to out-endure Randy, that's going to be the big challenge, but like I've said a dozen of times already, I really do believe he's gonna pull it off with skill.
I've not seen much MMA skill from his 3 fights. Wrestling skill for sure, but even that isnt well adapted to MMA right now.
We all know which of these fighters would win if they were at the same weight, so Brock is more likely to win through sheer weight dominance rather than skill.
I've not seen much MMA skill from his 3 fights. Wrestling skill for sure, but even that isnt well adapted to MMA right now.
We all know which of these fighters would win if they were at the same weight, so Brock is more likely to win through sheer weight dominance rather than skill.
Eh, wrestling skill is still skill as far as I'm concerned... weight is sure gonna be a great help to him but it's not all that.
Eh, wrestling skill is still skill as far as I'm concerned... weight is sure gonna be a great help to him but it's not all that.
I dont wish to sound like a stubborn old fool, but of course its all about the weight. Randy's Greco background would trump Brocks collegiate background if there wasnt a 50-60lbs weight difference.
Randy is superior, skill-wise, to Brock in every aspect of MMA.
I dont wish to sound like a stubborn old fool, but of course its all about the weight. Randy's Greco background would trump Brocks collegiate background if there wasnt a 50-60lbs weight difference.
Randy is superior, skill-wise, to Brock in every aspect of MMA.
You're talking about the old Brock here. Remember when he lost to Mir, we all thought he was done for and that his bubble of hype blew up at that point, but he came back stronger than ever. Brock has the best trait of a fighter - he learns from his mistakes.
So you know what, even if Randy takes him this weekend, Brock will only come back smarter and meaner and better. I've said it before: I really do think he's the next big thing.
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