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Rich "Ace" Franklin wins! 56 52.34%
Dan "Hollywood" Henderson wins! 51 47.66%
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If Hendo doesn't come in right hand-happy, he should be able to take a somewhat controlled decision. Rich's biggest deficiency is his wrestling, and while he often employs great technical striking, his defensive wrestling has never been outstanding. I can't honestly see Franklin taking this fight unless he can somehow avert the takedown, which may very well be remote, and out-work Hendo on the feet. I honestly can't wait for this one.
Dan Henderson's takedown defense hasn't been too great either though, he's good in the Greco clinch, but he's also been taken down by lesser wrestlers than Rich, such as Bustamante.

Dan Henderson's better at 205 than 185, but he's still a very one-dimensional fighter. Rich Franklin's cardio is amazing in both weight-classes, he throws better combinations, and he's constantly working. He'll take some punishment as he always does, but Dan Henderson will simply be outworked IMO. Rich won't be stupid and make this a brawl, I think he'll manage to take down Dan, and show off some of his nasty ground and pound/under-rated BJJ.
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I've wanted to see this fight for a while, and am not sure who I am going to pick right now. I just hope it is a war.

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I'm going with Rich Franklin. I think he has really underrated Bjj, similar to Forrest Griffin. Re-watch his fight with Jason MacDonald and you'll see what I mean. Dan Henderson is a good wrestler but he tends to lay on top of people and Franklin is good at getting up and making shit happen.




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This Franklin submission game talk has got to stop. There is no way in hell he is going ot submit Hendo. Did you see how hard Big Nog had to work to submit a largely undersized Hendo. If Rich wins it will be a decision and thats it.




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This Franklin submission game talk has got to stop. There is no way in hell he is going ot submit Hendo. Did you see how hard Big Nog had to work to submit a largely undersized Hendo. If Rich wins it will be a decision and thats it.
No one claimed he was going to submit him...




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Man I have wanted to see this fight ever since Henderson dropped to 185. I think Henderson would win via decision, I dont think Franklin would be able to prevent the TD attempts sby Henderson. Franklin has the better stand up but I think Henderson's chin is too strong to get KOd.


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Dan Henderson's takedown defense hasn't been too great either though, he's good in the Greco clinch, but he's also been taken down by lesser wrestlers than Rich, such as Bustamante.

Dan Henderson's better at 205 than 185, but he's still a very one-dimensional fighter. Rich Franklin's cardio is amazing in both weight-classes, he throws better combinations, and he's constantly working. He'll take some punishment as he always does, but Dan Henderson will simply be outworked IMO. Rich won't be stupid and make this a brawl, I think he'll manage to take down Dan, and show off some of his nasty ground and pound/under-rated BJJ.

I whole-heartily agree with this, when Hendo overcommits to the right hand he leaves himself liable to the takedown. That's why guys who should never take him down on paper have been able to. Hell, even Kondo was able to mount the takedown when they fought. If Hendo comes in leaving the KO as an afterthought, he should be able to grind out a meaningful decision after 15 minutes. Not an incrimination on Rich by any means, but he lacks for significantly in the wrestling department, one area Hendo should at least be able to duly control him for in the duration of the fight.

Hendo would in all likelihood get outgunned on the feet where he'd be giving up his base against someone that will assuredly be technically proficient. Even though Hendo has that fight ending power in his hands, he's much better off closing the distance and working his magic in the clinch. It all depends on whether or not Hendo comes in keen on a disciplined gameplan without getting right hand-happy, which he seems to do perpetually these days.

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I've wanted this fight ever since dan came back to the ufc. I seriously don't get why people are questioning Rich's chin though, yea all his losses are to KO but honestly when he fought anderson he ate a bit more then just one punch before he fell down in both fights, and Lyoto gave him a solid punch followed by a great kick (or knee, haven't watched the fight in a loooong time).

In the hamill fight Rich took a SOLID uppercut from hamill and was hardly phased. I find it funny that alot of the guys who questioned rich's chin also stated that hamill had alot of knockout power coming into their fight.

Either way, i'm sure the fight will go to a decision, but it should be a great fight, Rich has great conditioning and will push the action the whole 15mins. Though I like rich for this fight, i'm worried about how he'll deal with henderson's wrestling. I'm sure he'll work the leg kicks and throw combo from the outside like he did with hamill but henderson is quite a bit better then hamill in almost all departments (hamill has better cardio I believe) and will make this a match i can't wait to happen.

I think this fight will come down to game plan, and as of late Rich has been the one with the better game plan in his fights. If Rich can keep this standing then I'm sure he'll win a UD. Though Rich has a truly underrated ground game, I don't think he'll submit Dan, he can use his BJJ though to scramble and jockey for position if the fight does go to the ground. He can also use his bjj to remain active (submission attempts and sweeps) from his back so he won't be deducted much points for being put on his back if Dan puts him there.

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This Franklin submission game talk has got to stop. There is no way in hell he is going ot submit Hendo. Did you see how hard Big Nog had to work to submit a largely undersized Hendo. If Rich wins it will be a decision and thats it.
You might want to learn to read, under-rated BJJ doesn't mean "OMG RICH IS GOING TO SUB HENDO".
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Franklin has been dropped by guys without huge power in the past, which is why I'd give a definitive advantage to Hendo for changing the fight with one punch. Although I believe Hendo has more tools with which to win and more experience against top competition. Franklin should make it close, but Hendo takes this if he can deviate from overcommitting to anything big and stick with an ironclad gameplan.

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