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Old 10-26-2006, 02:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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no no, you're right......its def. more impressive than a stephan bonnar though lol add to that a Vitor Belfort (when he was decent haha) and a Cote who actually looked good for the first few minutes
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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To be fair, beating an old Ken Shamrock twice isn't exactly all that impressive either.

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Old 10-26-2006, 02:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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As much as I dislike him I agree that Tito has earned his shot.

He beat Patrick Cote to end his losing streak. Then he beat Vitor Belfort who was like the #3 contender being that he just lost the LHW title in his previous fight. Follow that up with a win over Forrest Griffin who was on a bit of a winning streak and two decisive wins over Ken Shamrock. Thats five straight wins. So he deffinitly deserves a shot at the title although him winning it is another matter altogether.


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Old 10-26-2006, 02:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I scored the Griffin x Ortiz fight, 10-8, 9-10, 10-10 for Tito 29-28.
Tito won that fight, but his conditioning looked bad. He's supposedly worked that problem out since then, but we've yet to see him have to fight outside of the 1st round.
Assuming Tito loses to Liddell, he will still stay a top contender in the LH division so he'll probably fight other contenders and try to beat them and earn another shot. His next match up would probably be against Babalu, but he could also fight Forrest again or someone else.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Retirement? Guys, Tito is 31 years old lol theres no sign of retirement in him for quite some time.

exactly bud Tito is actually taking this sport and training very seriously now , the mann trains like a monster , he has a solid steady camp behind him for the first time in a while, and too be honest Tito is at the top of his game right . The forrest fight he fought on one leg practically, is 2 fights with shamrock lasted only 1 rd , but were gunna see in this upcoming fight with Chuck , just how much he has improved
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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i had it 10-8 Tito , 10-9 Forrest, 10-9 Tito . 29-27 Ortiz

Rd 3 was very close, but like Rogan & FORREST said the last takedown silitified the rd for Orrtiz
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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right, I just pray his conditioning is a hell of alot better, but knowing (not personally) the beast that he is up in Colorado those boys are whooping his ass into shape, making sure his cardio is top notch.....would love to see him holding the gold
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I'm sure his cardio is just fine, I honestly don't even question that at the moment. If he loses to Chuck, I'm sure a rematch with Griffin is down the line. It was a pretty even fight and some thought Griffin even won so to not have them go again would be a mistake IMO. Even if Ortiz destroys him in 1 round, the names and their last fight alone would draw in plenty of cash.

Griffin is also rumored to fight at UFC 66 so if he wins that and Tito loses, you can only think that a rematch will take place because even a Griffin win doesn't put him on the level of Liddell if he beats Tito.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think Tito is going to be the #2 Lightheavyweight in the UFC until Brandon Vera drops down and starts to prove he deserves to be there.

ive been calling him dropping down since the day i saw him...hes something like 225 which is a fairly easy cut....and i honestly think hes about 2 fights away from being able to dismantle tito.(just becuase of experience)

think about what vera would do to forrest
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Tito deserves a title shot but he will not win against Liddell. As far a Griffin/Ortiz rematch, I would like to see that. I don't think Griffin has what it takes to beat Liddell either. Someone earlier mentioned Vera dropping to LHW to challeng Liddell, I see him as the only person in the UFC at 205, who can beat Liddell. Ortiz gets overwhelmed when Liddell throws flurry after flurry, and that is what beats him everytime.
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