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Old 10-10-2008, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/o...rts&position=3

Not sure if anyone posted this I thought it was very interesting. I think Dana makes some excellent points in this article. I wasn't sure if I should put this here or in the Elite XC section feel free to move it if needed. Enjoy

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Since taking over as UFC president in 2001, Dana White has made it his mission to establish mixed martial arts as a legitimate professional sport.

With MMA’s popularity at its peak, there is no denying that White has been successful, but a controversy in a rival organization has him fearing that years of work could be going down the drain.

The dirtiest word in the fight game is “fix,” and that’s exactly what is being used by some to describe the circumstances leading up to the Kimbo Slice-Seth Petruzelli fight at the Elite XC show that aired on CBS Saturday night.

Petruzelli, a part-time fighter, beat Slice, the top attraction of the new promotion, on a TKO 14 seconds into the fight. While Petruzelli’s win was an upset, the real shocker didn’t come until Monday when he told a Florida radio station, “The promoters kind of hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down. Let’s just put it that way. It was worth my while to stand up and try to punch him.”

The next day Petruzelli retracted his comments, saying he was referring to a bonus he could receive for knocking out Slice. But that didn’t wash with conspiracy theorists, as there was still the implication that promoters wanted the fight to stay off the mat, where Slice, a former backyard brawler, is less experienced.

In an exclusive interview with the Herald on Wednesday, White discussed how damaging a fix could be for the sport.

“It disgusts me,” White said. “I’ve been busting my (expletive) for 10 years flying all over the planet to show everybody what a great sport this is and what amazing people are involved in it. Then CBS throws this guy who fights at people’s barbecues on the main event because they’re trying to compete with us, and he gets knocked out in (14) seconds by a guy who didn’t win ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ and couldn’t fight in the UFC. Then the guy turns around the next day and says, ‘The promoters actually paid me to not go to the ground with this guy. They paid me to stand up,’ which I’m pretty sure is illegal.”

Slice was originally scheduled to fight Ken Shamrock, but the MMA veteran withdrew after suffering a cut above his eye during last-minute training. Despite giving up 30 pounds, Petruzelli stepped up from the undercard to fight Slice.

White never minces words when it comes to Slice or the Elite XC, and he isn’t surprised the organization found itself in such a mess.

“(Slice is) a joke,” White said. “It was bound to happen. These guys have lost $60 million trying to get this thing off the ground. They’re building their promotion around a guy who can’t fight. It’s kind of (expletive) stupid, isn’t it? You’re in the fight business and you’re building your business around a guy who can’t fight.”

Elite XC vice president Jared Shaw told mmaweekly.com that any allegations of a fix were untrue, but as far as White is concerned, the damage has been done.

“It put a nail in my coffin, too,” White said. “When dirty people go out and do stuff like that, it hurts. Promoters have a bad rap as it is because of the last 100 years of boxing. We actually started to turn that around and were doing the right things and then you have these guys coming out and doing (expletive) like that. It hurts us.”

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Old 10-10-2008, 09:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure if anyone posted this I thought it was very interesting. I think Dana makes some excellent points in this article. I wasn't sure if I should put this here or in the Elite XC section feel free to move it if needed. Enjoy
I couldn't get your link to work, so here's another one.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I definitely don't always agree with Dana but I do here. Whether or not this was a UFC event it hurts MMA overall by being tainted by the last EliteXC show. I watched the first CBS card at a bar and many of the casual fans were saying "Oh look UFC fighting!" and it took awhile but I finally got it across to them that it was MMA fighting and that the UFC was a different org. than EliteXC. So for some people they see these things as the same and it does hurt the UFC just because of ill-informed perception.

Add in to that you have the ill-informed jackasses on several sports shows completely trashing MMA because of the Kimbo-cards on CBS. Sadly those were the only 2 events they even attempted to watch and mostly just tuned in for Kimbo's fights and that's it. So just by bad association many people who don't know any better lump the UFC in with EliteXC and this last event hurt MMA in how it is percieved by the casual fan.

You had the questionable things around the Nelson-Arlovski fight(not just with the stand-up but with the questions about how long each fighter had to prepare for each other), Ken's stupidity(and personally I think he was looking for a way out of this) and the Kimbo fight all which came off badly.

Right or wrong this does hurt the UFC and Dana is dead on about this.
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hes right... it was an insident waiting to happen and its suprisingly stupid
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Wow, that was the first I heard of the fix story...if it's true, then that is digusting.
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, that was the first I heard of the fix story...if it's true, then that is digusting.

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I dont doubt for a second they "hinted" to him to keep it standing and they were probably so taken aback by what happened they forgot to properly "debrief" Seth on what not to say after the fight. Shaw or Lappen or which ever one it was screaming outside the cage at the ref that it was back of the head was pathetic
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hes right... it was an insident waiting to happen and its suprisingly stupid
I'm interested to find out though - what was the plan with Kimbo? Did they know about his fighting 'abilities' or did they really think he was good? Were they planning to feed cans to him all the time or maybe they planned his advancement. And why is there such a disappointment on their side - they should've see it coming sooner or later - when you feed cans to the can the odds are pretty even anyways.
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I'm interested to find out though - what was the plan with Kimbo? Did they know about his fighting 'abilities' or did they really think he was good?
Well they KNEW he wasnt good or else they wouldnt have fed him cans all the time and try to persuade fighters to not take him down. they wouldnt have done that if they fought he was good ( obviously )

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Were they planning to feed cans to him all the time or maybe they planned his advancement.
i personally think they would have fed him cans as long as there where cans left on the face of the planet. the problem they would have gotten would have been that they would have gotten short of " big name cans " like frank shamrock... a guy ho everybody knows but is just to old to do anything big.

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And why is there such a disappointment on their side - they should've see it coming sooner or later - when you feed cans to the can the odds are pretty even anyways.
i dont get this either.... they must have KNOWN it was coming
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