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**Ape City** · 10-14-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rockybalboa25

It's quite an assumption that Silva would come in at 230. Also whenever you gain muscle mass you slow down. Look at what happened to Kelly Pavlick. He was significantly slower at 166 than 160. Since you don't like the Mayweather reference what if Pavlick went to Heavyweight would he dominate? Let me ask you another question. If Travis Lutter could take down Silva. Why couldn't Couture or Lesnar. They are both quicker than Lutter and way better wrestlers. The bottom line about power is that Silva's power is impressive against other MWs and 1 bad LHW. Do you honestly think that Silva hits as hard as Arlovski or Sylvia? These other heavyweights have taken shots from these guys, so why wouldn't they be able to take the spider's punches?

I agree with most of this logic. But you have to also admit that Silva is much faster than Arlovski, and light years faster than Sylvia.

Would the spider slow down if he went for an all out muscle gain to for more power? Of course, but he would also be fighting slower fighters as well.

And I don't buy into this chin arguement.

69nites · 10-14-2008, 02:34 PM

I think the reach diferencial would save lesnar on the feet against silva. I still think Anderson would find a way to win tho. Assuming he doesn't get smashed in the face with one of lesnar's tree trunks

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on the subject of silva's weight, you only have to weigh in at 207 to make heavyweight. He could do that right now.

**yorT** · 10-14-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 69nites

I think the reach diferencial would save lesnar on the feet against silva. I still think Anderson would find a way to win tho. Assuming he doesn't get smashed in the face with one of lesnar's tree trunks

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on the subject of silva's weight, you only have to weigh in at 207 to make heavyweight. He could do that right now.

What is Lesnar's reach?

**HexRei** · 10-14-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 69nites

I think the reach diferencial would save lesnar on the feet against silva. I still think Anderson would find a way to win tho. Assuming he doesn't get smashed in the face with one of lesnar's tree trunks

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on the subject of silva's weight, you only have to weigh in at 207 to make heavyweight. He could do that right now.

206 actually. now that I think about it 205 and a half would probably qualify too.

69nites · 10-14-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yorT

What is Lesnar's reach?

81 or 82 inches.

69nites · 10-14-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HexRei

206 actually. now that I think about it 205 and a half would probably qualify too.

at 206 you still qualify to fight as a LHW

dario03 · 10-14-2008, 04:21 PM

HW is listed as over 205 but I do believe the 1 pound discrepency exemption goes both ways. So I believe you could actually weigh 204.1 lbs and still qualify for HW and LHW. I guess it depends on the locations atheletic commission though.
In the EliteXC Kimbo vs Petruzelli fight Seth was only 205.5.

At the Herring fight Brock Lesnar was listed as having a 81" reach (3 inches more than Herring's 78").

69nites · 10-14-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dario03

HW is listed as over 205 but I do believe the 1 pound discrepency exemption goes both ways. So I believe you could actually weigh 204.1 lbs and still qualify for HW and LHW.
In the EliteXC Kimbo vs Petruzelli fight Seth was only 205.5.

At the Herring fight Brock Lesnar was listed as having a 81" reach (3 inches more than Herring's 78").

this actually should be right.

I have only seen the one pound used in the heavy direction lol.

**valrond** · 10-14-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rockybalboa25

It's quite an assumption that Silva would come in at 230. Also whenever you gain muscle mass you slow down. Look at what happened to Kelly Pavlick. He was significantly slower at 166 than 160. Since you don't like the Mayweather reference what if Pavlick went to Heavyweight would he dominate? Let me ask you another question. If Travis Lutter could take down Silva. Why couldn't Couture or Lesnar. They are both quicker than Lutter and way better wrestlers. The bottom line about power is that Silva's power is impressive against other MWs and 1 bad LHW. Do you honestly think that Silva hits as hard as Arlovski or Sylvia? These other heavyweights have taken shots from these guys, so why wouldn't they be able to take the spider's punches?

I didn't say it in my last post, but in the first one, I think, I said the weight and muscle differential would be better for wrestling, take downs and ground control, obviously, but he wouldn't have any trouble on his feet, that's what I was arguing. Another point is that not so big HW that could cut to LHW, like Randy or Fedor, don't seem so affected with the size of their opponents.

So yes, I agree Silva would have a harder time on the clinch and on the ground, but not standing.