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post #41 of 113 (permalink) Old 10-10-2008, 08:34 PM
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I think Silva would give problems to any of the smaller heavyweights, and yes that includes Fedor.

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what about fedor?
Everyone already knows how that would go.

I can see Silva beating a lot of smaller heavyweights such as Randy. I can also see him doing well against Tim and a few others.

I don't think he could take Lesnar at all and I don't think he could take Gonzaga either.

Arlovski/Silva is a great fight. That's one that would be very interesting to watch.
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I know what you mean, but I don't think you need HUGE power to knockout Arlovski. Hell, Datsik knocked out Arlovski and he's not really a powerful guy.
To be fair that was his MMA debut.

Arlovski has taken some hard shots in his career. I mean early in his career he defiantly didn't have a good chin but Rothwell has some power and landed a couple shots that Arlovski took fine.

I don't see Anderson being able to outstrike Arlovski at HW there is such a big difference between outstriking top MW's and HW's.
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aa striking is top notch
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post #45 of 113 (permalink) Old 10-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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god plz dont say that silva will ko fedor
Wouldn't dream of it.

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This is fxcking ridiculous. I love Silva as much as the next guy (trust me I really do), but this is too far-fetched.

Sure he could beat Kongo and Valezquez and maybe Hardonk, but Couture? Werdum? Lesnar?!

Lesnar could beat Silva easily. How? By taking him down to the ground. Silva's weakness is wrestling and that is Lesnar's ticket to victory. He could lay on top of him and I doubt even Silva has long enough legs to triangle Brock. The amount of Silva nuthuggery on these boards is ridiculous.
It is almost like you guys have never watched Bj Penn, Machida, or A. Silva fight. Just because you are strong enough to take someone down, doesn't mean they are going to elt you get a hold of them. You can shoot all you wan't, if the opponent is ready for it and backtracks you are going to eat a punch or a knee. then you move more.

I am not even an A. Silva fan, so these constant accusations of nuthuggery are ridiculous.

You doubt if he has long enough legs? Are you insane? Brock and A. Silva are almost the same height! Lesnar is one inch taller! How could his legs not be long enough?

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1. Randy Couture - I think Randy could get Anderson down, but I don't think he'd be able to pass Anderson's guard. I think that he'd either get submitted by Anderson, or knocked out after a stand-up from an inability to do anything within Silva's guard. Silva via submission, 2nd round.

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - This fight could go either way I think, it would completely depend on if Nog could get Anderson down and pass his guard immediately. Seeing as Nogueira uses leg trips and single legs instead of double legs, he wouldn't fall right into Anderson's guard, and in that case I think he could submit him. If Nogueira can't get Silva down though, he loses a decision. I'd probably pick Nogueira though, just because he always finds a way to get the fight to the ground and Anderson's takedown defense could still use improvement. Nogueira via submission 3rd round.

3. Brock Lesnar - He'd absolutely pick Lesnar apart with his footwork. He'd be able to get in and out of the pocket and punish Brock.. I could actually see him finishing Lesnar with a flying knee as Brock shoots in. Silva via TKO, 2nd round.


4. Fabricio Werdum - Werdum, doesn't usually fair too well against strikers, but he'd have a substantial size advantage in this fight. Like the Nogueira match-up, it would entirely depend on whether Werdum could get the fight to the ground without having to pass Silva's guard once it gets there. Werdum via submission, 3rd round.

5. Cheick Kongo - I think Anderson would submit Kongo. He'd be winning the stand-up, but Kongo would take the fight to the ground with his strength. Once it gets there, Anderson locks up a triangle or armbar and makes Cheick tap. Anderson Silva, submission 1st/2nd round.

6. Antoni Hardonk - This would be a fun fight. Hardonk has great leg kicks, but Anderson is definitely the more well-rounded striker. I'd pick Anderson to win via TKO, 1st round.. Hardonk wouldn't be able to do anything with Silva on the ground.

7. Cain Velasquez - I'd actually pick Velasquez in this. His wrestling is great and his grappling looks to be pretty impressive. A wrestler with a great grappling game could really pose issues for Silva on the ground.

8. Gabriel Gonzaga- Gonzaga would take the fight to the ground and win a round. Gonzaga would more than likely gas from taking Silva down and not being able to do anything, Silva would proceed to pick Gonzaga apart with his boxing, and more than likely drop him with a straight punch, finishing him with strikes on the ground. Silva via TKO in the 2nd round.

9. Tim Sylvia- Tim Sylvia's ground game will always be his weakness, so he'd try to keep the fight standing against Silva. Either way, on the ground or standing Silva wins this fight. I'd pick Silva to win via TKO in the second or a unanimous decision.

10. Andrei Arlovski - Andrei Arlovski's chin isn't the greatest, he's like a tank without much armor. Standing this would be a very technical bout, but once again, Silva has more tools to beat Arlovski. Like Apecity said, Arlovski lacks head movement, something Silva has in spades. Silva would drop Andrei with a straight punch, finishing him with strikes on the ground. Silva via TKO, 2nd round.
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I think Silva would give problems to any of the smaller heavyweights, and yes that includes Fedor.
He'd be an interesting challenge for Fedor, but ultimately Fedor would beat him IMO.


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To be fair that was his MMA debut.

Arlovski has taken some hard shots in his career. I mean early in his career he defiantly didn't have a good chin but Rothwell has some power and landed a couple shots that Arlovski took fine.
The thing is, chins don't really change over time. I mean, every time Arlovski has been knocked out, it's been from one punch. Datsik isn't a knockout artist, but he dropped Andrei like a sack of potatoes with a single strike. Anderson is known for connecting on the button, and I think his straight punches are hard enough to drop even tough heavyweights. Just look at the force of his punch against Irvin, that shit was nasty.

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I don't see Anderson being able to outstrike Arlovski at HW there is such a big difference between outstriking top MW's and HW's.
Andrei's definitely a big challenge, but I still think on the technical level Anderson is just more fluid and complete.
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1. Randy Couture I think Randy would be able to work the clinch effectively and control him on the ground, UD Randy.

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (I know they would never fight but this is just for fun) Nog would get beat up badly standing but eventually every fight sees the ground, and Nog would pull it out there.

3. Brock Lesnar Lesnar would take him down the first time he instinctively went for the Thai clinch, at that point it's a ref stoppage. He's WAY to powerful and controlling on the ground. Standing he'll get picked apart as long as he lets it stay that way.

4. Fabricio Werdum Werdum I think gets beat by Anderson in all facets. KO standing or ref stoppage on the ground.

5. Cheick Kongo This would probably be the most entertaining fight, both are good on their feet but if Silva can avoid taking a serious shot he wins this one handily. On the ground Silva is superior.

6. Antoni Hardonk I don't really see any way for Hardonk to win this.

7. Cain Velasquez Silva wins on the feet, and might catch a lucky sub on the ground but Velasquez could easily outscore him on the ground.

8. Gabriel Gonzaga On the feet Silva would dominate, on the ground it would be a great fight but GG probably would win.

9. Tim Sylvia This would be an interesting matchup if Silva for some reason decided to keep it standing, on the ground Silva would dominate him. Silva overall.

10. Andrei Arlovski Another great matchup, they are not that far off size wise but AA is definitely more powerful. I think Silva would KO him though.
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How do you see the fight going? I see Brock attempting to bull rush like he did with Herring and a. Silva side stepping him and landing a nice shot.
It's going to take a LOT more than that for him to beat Lesnar. This fight WILL go to the ground at some point, and at that point the fight is over, Lesnar would destroy him on the ground.

I mean..it isn't like it already happened before right? *cough* Irvin* Cough*
You can't possibly compare Lesnar to Irvin, they are two totally different fighters in every way.
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I was compairing Hong man to Lesnar.
That's a stupid comparison, like Irvin they are two totally different fighters.
I agree Ape that 25 pounds doesn't necessarily dictate a victory, especially in the heavier weight classes.
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I can't believe how ignorant most of the responses are. Silva couldn't come close to beating most of these guys. There are weight classes for a reason. Silva would lose to all of these guys. Maybe Hardonk would be close. Silva is the best pound-for-pound fighter. There is a reason that there is that phrase. It's because informed people know that lighter division guys can't beat the Heavyweights outright. The thought is if they were the same weight who would win? Come on people the days of light fighters beating heavy fighters are gone.
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1. Randy Couture - Possibly sub or TKO.

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Nogueira by submission, he is Silva's mentor in BJJ. Nogueira would know all his weaknesses and cancel out his every moves.

3. Brock Lesnar - He wouldn't, I think Lesnar would take him down and lay and pray until he gets a submission win. Silva could get a submission but I think Brock could use that massive size and strength advantage. As long as he didn't try to much and laid there dropped punches that wouldn't open Brock up to much for submission he could win.

4. Fabricio Werdum - Decision if he managed to keep it standing.

5. Cheick Kongo - TKO or Submission

6. Antoni Hardonk - TKO or Submission

7. Cain Velasquez - Submission

8. Gabriel Gonzaga - Decision or TKO

9. Tim Sylvia - He wouldn't. Sylvia would use his reach and keep Sylvia out. Sylvia hasn't got as good technique as Silva but standing id say he would get the upper hand due to his massive size advantage. on the ground Silva but I don't think Silva could get him there.

10. Andrei Arlovski - Tough one to call, I think it is 50/50 and could go to a split decision.
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Come on people the days of light fighters beating heavy fighters are gone.
I guess you are betting on Lesnar, since Randy isn't much bigger than Silva.
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