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Jundon! 10-10-2008 04:35 PM

How would Anderson Silva do against the following HWs...
 
1. Randy Couture

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (I know they would never fight but this is just for fun)

3. Brock Lesnar

4. Fabricio Werdum

5. Cheick Kongo

6. Antoni Hardonk

7. Cain Velasquez

8. Gabriel Gonzaga

9. Tim Sylvia

10. Andrei Arlovski


Anderson Silva said himself in an interview that he cuts from 213. He looked good at 205 against a KO Puncher so how would he do against these guys?

Darkgecko 10-10-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jundon! (Post 680810)
1. Randy Couture

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (I know they would never fight but this is just for fun)

3. Brock Lesnar

4. Fabricio Werdum

5. Cheick Kongo

6. Antoni Hardonk

7. Cain Velasquez

8. Gabriel Gonzaga

9. Tim Sylvia

10. Andrei Arlovski

I could see him beating any of these people tbh. Lesnar, Kongo, Sylvia, Arlovski would be the easiest.

Gonazga and Nogueira would be the toughest I think.

I am not familiar with Hardonk, will have to research)

Ape City 10-10-2008 04:45 PM

1) Randy would get knocked out by round 2. A. Silva has far superior striking, head movement, and a nasty clinch game. I don't think Cpt. America has him beat anywhere on the feet. I think Silva is a terrible matchup for someone like Randy who likes to use the cage and dirty box. He would find out real quick what a few knees from Silva's clinch feel like, just like Franklin did. In fact, I see this match up going alot like Franklin Silva 1.

2) I think Nog would win a hard fought battle by third round sub. I think Nog has a better ground game and would use size and unorthadox takedowns to wear Silva down. The fact that he trains with Silva will help with the mytique surrounding Silva, so he won't have the A.Silva-jitters. Nog also has the heart of a champion, and won't have his spirit broken. I think that is a huge factor in A. Silva's fights. He intimidates people so much, and frustrates them with his superior striking to the point where they lose heart. Still, I see it being very close.

3) Lesnar would be knocked out, 10 seconds, round 1

4) Werdum would be a very interesting fight. I think Werdum is smart enough to take his time and not engage ina stand up match. Getting A. Silva down would be another story. I could actually see this going to a decision. Perhaps a late sub from Werdum or late KO from Silva. Would be a sick match!

5) Kongo: Ko, round 1 for Silva.

6) ditto

7) ditto

8) Gabe is a beast on the ground, and a big man in general, which could pose some issues. Gabe has decent striking but just like Werdum if he tried to trade punches I think he would find A. Silva too quick. If Gabe pushed the pace and held Silva down I could see him wearing silva down for the sub, but I can see a KO from Silva being just as likely since Silva has a great gaurd and may just neatralize Gabe.

9) I think A. Silva beats Tim in every aspect. Tim would not want any part of A. Silva on the ground, and he would get picked apart on the feet. Tim is so slow and telegraphs his moves. A. Silva is elusive and quick. Tim get's knocked out in round 2.

10) AA has crisp boxing, and he is quick on his feet. AA problem is he doesn't move his head enough. I could see AA doing quite well against Silva for the first round or two, but I see A. Silva's superior head movement and precise punching getting him the late TKO or decision.

Alex_DeLarge 10-10-2008 04:45 PM

Of those heavyweights, I think he would beat Couture, Hardonk, Werdum, and possibily Sylvia, maybe Gonzaga if Silva can get it past the first round; as for the rest, no. Just because he fought at 205 doesn't mean he can fight heavyweights. Good god, the size differential is enough to decide the fight.

To quote Mr. Irvin, "there's weight classes for a reason."

_Destruction_ 10-10-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jundon! (Post 680810)
1. Randy Couture(He could beat him)

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (I know they would never fight but this is just for fun) (silva would lose)

3. Brock Lesnar (silva would lose.Were looking at at least a 100 pound weight and strength advantage for lesnar)

4. Fabricio Werdum (Silva would win)

5. Cheick Kongo (This is a tough one.I think kongo might be too big for silva to handle, but silva definitely has way better striking)

6. Antoni Hardonk (silva wins)

7. Cain Velasquez (silva wins.Cain has a similar skillset to lesnar but he isnt nearly as big, powerful, or fast)

8. Gabriel Gonzaga (silva would lose)

9. Tim Sylvia (silva loses.Tim has a huge reach advantage)

10. Andrei Arlovski (silva loses. Andrei has good striking and is alot bigger than silva)



^My choices.they have different weight classes for a reason

Darkgecko 10-10-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex_DeLarge (Post 680822)
Of those heavyweights, I think he would beat Couture, Hardonk, Werdum, and possibily Sylvia, maybe Gonzaga if Silva can get it past the first round; as for the rest, no. Just because he fought at 205 doesn't mean he can fight heavyweights. Good god, the size differential is enough to decide the fight.

To quote Mr. Irvin, "there's weight classes for a reason."

You just listed 5 of the top Heavyweights in the world and said they would lose to Silva, and then said he can't fight heavyweights :)

Brock has nearly 100 pounds on him, which is clearly an advantage, but he would have to bullrush it to the ground and just lay on him.

Alex_DeLarge 10-10-2008 04:51 PM

Sylvia has a reach advantage but Silva would beat him by picking him apart with jabs, possibily rocking Sylvia and just all around being quicker. I could see it being like Fedor/Sylvia only lasting longer.

Ape City 10-10-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_DeLarge (Post 680822)
Of those heavyweights, I think he would beat Couture, Hardonk, Werdum, and possibily Sylvia, maybe Gonzaga if Silva can get it past the first round; as for the rest, no. Just because he fought at 205 doesn't mean he can fight heavyweights. Good god, the size differential is enough to decide the fight.

To quote Mr. Irvin, "there's weight classes for a reason."

Using that logic, shouldn't Fedor have lost to Hong Man?

Shouldn't Cro Cop have been owned by Bob Sapp?

Shouldn't BJ Penn have been crushed...many times?

Also, don't forget, A. Silva is 6"2.

Even then, skill > size any day. Just because he can't toss Lesnar around like a rag doll doesn't mean he will let Brock get a hold of him. And being heavier doesn't make you less likely to be knocked out.

dontazo 10-10-2008 04:55 PM

holy shit a silva is really ******* over rated ....
brock will get ko ed in 10 seconds? ... yea of course
dont get me wrong silva is the man but that's 2 much

Alex_DeLarge 10-10-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkgecko (Post 680828)
You just listed 5 of the top Heavyweights in the world and said they would lose to Silva, and then said he can't fight heavyweights :)

Brock has nearly 100 pounds on him, which is clearly an advantage, but he would have to bullrush it to the ground and just lay on him.

Hardonk is not a top heavyweight and it's all about the styles and size. Werdum and Couture are sort of small for heavyweights so that benefits Silva. Sylvia and Hardonk would want to stand with Silva and Andy is a better stand-up fighter then both. I love Hardonks stand-up, but Eddie Sanchez rocked him, Silva would too and would finish. And I said Silva COULD beat Gabe if Silva gets it to later rounds. Gabe is far bigger and more powerful guy so he would pose a great threat to Silva and possibly get him to the round and win by TKO. But like I said, if Silva just keeps moving and possibly try to tire out Gonzaga (which is possible) then Andy could pick him apart standing.

Dude, all Brock has to do is take Silva down and use his strength to get Silva in a crucific position and win by TKO. The size and power is what makes the difference. Anderson would not beat Brock. The most Silva could do when Lesnar would bullrush him is land maybe one knee and that sure as shit won't knock Lesnar out.


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