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View Poll Results: Who Wins?
Thiago Alves 42 35.00%
Josh Koscheck 78 65.00%
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post #21 of 99 (permalink) Old 10-13-2008, 08:20 PM
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I picked Diego to win. Now I'm not sure. Maybe now Diego can fight Yoshida.
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Let's just hope he has the proper training grounds to oppose against Alves, who while he was preparing for Diego, still has a change of plans of which to bode with.

It's a double-edged sword in that manner, for one Koscheck may/may not have prepared for this as diligently as Thiago, without the greatest training camp in the world, while Alves has presumably endured a grueling camp in retrospect. Should be a barnburner, but I can't help but slightly favor Alves here.

Koscheck has a much better shot than Hughes, is also the superior striker, but Alves' BJJ defense has improved exponentially the last couple of years. I don't think it'll be a question of whether or not Koscheck can take him down, but more of whether or not he'll be able to keep Thiago there. I do believe Alves can do substantial damage on the feet, Koscheck is hittable, but it'll be a matter of whether he can sprawl and brawl en-route to a somewhat consolidating decision.

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Koscheck will repeatedly take Alves down and win a decision. Kos' top game is really good. Bad fight for Alves, as he's facing a much better wrestler, who isn't a complete dipshit standing. But, this isn't going to stay standing anyway.
Koscheck's top game may not be as good as we think. When he fought Diego he went for a takedown with like ten seconds left in the first just to get a takedown and win the round. Within the ten seconds or so he got swept and Diego took his back. Same thing in the Hazelett fight, he took him down and was almost instantly stuck in a triangle. I think what happened was he had great wrestling so all he worked on was his striking and he never really developed his bjj like he should. We will see, I am not sure if Thiago is the guy to sub him but hes not bad on the ground. Plus Thiago is so dangerous on his feet its ridiculous, he can end it at any time.
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Koscheck will repeatedly take Alves down and win a decision. Kos' top game is really good. Bad fight for Alves, as he's facing a much better wrestler, who isn't a complete dipshit standing. But, this isn't going to stay standing anyway.
I agree. Especially with less time to prepare I think Kos will really stick to his wrestling and just use his stand up to set up shots. Huge, huge oppurtunity for Kos and I personally think this is fight he should have gotten over Diego anyways. Props to him for stepping up, although I think after he wins this Kos vs GSP will be more of the same from the first fight unless GSP decides to make an example out of him with his stand up.

Much more pumped for this one though I think a lot of people would disagree with me.

Edit: Post this fight if Kos wins, him fighting GSP assumes that GSP beats Penn which I think he will.


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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Man I was so looking forward to this fight! Oh this sucks big time



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If Alves is the favorite, i'm puttin' money on Koscheck.
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Let's just hope he has the proper training grounds to oppose against Alves, who while he was preparing for Diego, still has a change of plans of which to bode with.

It's a double-edged sword in that manner, for one Koscheck may/may not have prepared for this as diligently as Thiago, without the greatest training camp in the world, while Alves has presumably endured a grueling camp in retrospect. Should be a barnburner, but I can't help but slightly favor Alves here.

Koscheck has a much better shot than Hughes, is also the superior striker, but Alves' BJJ defense has improved exponentially the last couple of years. I don't think it'll be a question of whether or not Koscheck can take him down, but more of whether or not he'll be able to keep Thiago there. I do believe Alves can do substantial damage on the feet, Koscheck is hittable, but it'll be a matter of whether he can sprawl and brawl en-route to a somewhat consolidating decision.
You think Koscheck is a better striker then Alves

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You think Koscheck is a better striker then Alves

Better than Hughes?

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Better than Hughes?
I agree he is better then Hughes I thought you were saying he was better then Alves, my bad.

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I agree he is better then Hughes I thought you were saying he was better then Alves, my bad.

Nah it's okay dude, I can understand how it came off by the way of the wording.

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