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Thiago Alves 42 35.00%
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Hughes has pretty much the worst striking for an elite fighter in the WW division.

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damnit damnit damnit damnit damnit damnit

i don't think alves can handle kos....FU#$ THIS SHIT
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I think that Alves has this all day long.

Kos has turned his back on his wrestling (at least in training) and his stand up is good, but no where near the same level as Thiago. IF Kos was still focused on his wrestling and using his lay and pray, I'd see Kos taking this fight by boring decision, but Thiago has the strength to lock up with Kos and have a fighting chance to stay on his feet.

Thiago via (T)KO late first/early second.

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It won't be predicated on whether or not Koscheck can take him down, that much is clear when comparing Koscheck's shot to Hughes'. However in order to mount any sort of viable offense he'll need to keep Thiago there, which is assuredly a tall order. Hughes' GnP was completely nullfied, while he merely went from guard to side control interchangeably for three minutes.

Thiago's striking can give anyone problems at 170, which is why it would be foolish for Koscheck to keep it there. If he can consistently get the takedown and keep Thiago squarely on his back, he should be able to take a somewhat commanding decision. If Thiago can negate Koscheck's GnP, he should be able to do just enough damage to take a close, but clear decision in his own right.

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It won't be predicated on whether or not Koscheck can take him down, that much is clear when comparing Koscheck's shot to Hughes'. However in order to mount any sort of viable offense he'll need to keep Thiago there, which is assuredly a tall order. Hughes' GnP was completely nullfied, while he merely went from guard to side control interchangeably for three minutes.
I dont think that Hughes GnP being that has anything to do with Thiago being good at nullifying it. Hughes has been cautious as hell on the ground for a long time. All he does is try and pass guard and rub his elbow against a guys face.

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koscheck will have nothing for thiago when this hits the ground....thiago's bjj and strength will neutralize any effort by kos to GnP
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Alves by a mile.

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I'll join the minority and pick Alves for this one.
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I dont think that Hughes GnP being that has anything to do with Thiago being good at nullifying it. Hughes has been cautious as hell on the ground for a long time. All he does is try and pass guard and rub his elbow against a guys face.

Which is exactly why it's even more of a testament to Alves' ability to negate Hughes completely. Not to say that Hughes has ever had bruttish GnP under any gratifying condition, but he was unable mount anything from top position aside from moving compatibly from full guard to side control.

Alves showed a tighter BJJ game than we've been used to in the past, which is precisely an improvement that could very well thwart away Koscheck's GnP after he gets the takedown.

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