Aaronyman

you improve w/ every performance yes? even if you get KTFO badly, u still learn from that experience....thus you get closer to perfection

it actually makes perfect sense but your taking it out of proportion

The Lone Wolf

Ok, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt with that one. But surely you cant agree that he's an A plus fighter? Thats just crazy talk

Aaronyman

i have him ranked 8th or 9th as LHW in mma... i think that qualifies him as an A level fighter, but A+ is probably top 5 or top 3...so i'd agree w/ u there

Halebop

I like Jardine alot. I don't agree that he is still a pure brawler though. He took Houston Alexander lightly and got humiliated. He was the first to fight him, fighters now have the luxury of knowing to just take Houston to the ground. Proving my point, Jardine certainly did not "just brawl" with Chuck. There can be no question there and as a matter of fact didn't Jardine/Chuck feel alot like Rampage/Forrest? The winner of each was the underdog and sure looked great in executing their gameplan.

But the fact remains, he destroyed Forrest who has really utilized his leg kicks since being taught to by Jardine during their match. (who was saying Forrest was getting the better of the stand up in that fight? When? for the 25 seconds before head met canvas? LOL)
He beat Chuck using strategy when most people wanted the Chuck of old to comeback and rip someone apart. Didn't happen, Jardine made Chuck look....well, old.

You aren't going to be a popular fighter when you beat Chuck Liddell and Forrest Griffin. That's not supposed to happen especially by someone who can't follow up the victory with some cheeky humor in the press.

For that reason this thread should fill up. A lot of people hate Keith "The Prom King Slayer" Jardine.

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lpbigd4444

Wow whoever started this thread is like a politician. You take quotes or statistics out of context in order to put a spin on it so it fits your version of the truth. Jardine is actually really laid back and humble. If you saw the whole interview you would see that. I hope Jardine knocks Vera out.

Bazza89

Forrest was getting the better of the standup in that fight. He wasn't tooling Keith but he was throwing and landing crisper cleaner punches.

I think if they fought again now Forrest would take it pretty comfortably TBH. Keiths a good fighter and has some top notch wins but he's not an A fighter in my opinion let alone A+.

I have Keith ranked about 11/12 at LHW so maybe B+. I think he could make a good gatekeeper for a stacked LHW division but I just can't see him ever being a contender.

Maybe I'm wrong, TBF I hope I am and that Jardine takes that next step, the more top 205ers the better IMO.

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GMW

I strongly dislike Jardine, but these comments are fine. He is top 10, thats world class, and every win does make you better. Perfection is a strong, and illused word, but it's true hes getting "closer."

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Damone

I wouldn't discount Jardine's win against Liddell, since Liddell was still seen as a monster, who was just beat by a guy who has his number. Most expected Liddell to smash Jardine's billy goat beard, including me. Jardine executed a nice gameplan in that fight and completely baffled Liddell.

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See, I really thought Keith could have beat Silva if he had taken him down right from the get-go. I was also very confident that this would not be his game plan and that he would try and stand with him, eventually leading to a vicious KO (which is what happened).

Keith is not doing himself any favors because he thinks that he'll appeal more to fans if he just brawled (I'm guessing this is why he decides to brawl). The dude doesn't even have a great chin nor does he possess vicious KO power. If Jardine mixed things up more, he'd definitely be a more dangerous fighter.