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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-16-2008, 11:53 AM
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I'm torn on this... I think having a wider weight division adds credibility to champions; I also think that eventually when all other things are equal, a weight disparity of 40-50lbs is a little extreme.

I think eventually it would need to be reviewed, but there just isn't that deep of a heavy-weight division in any organization anymore that would benefit from such a change at this time.

I would like to see a super-heavyweight division added so that we can see some big guys thump skulls. I just don't think the draw is there because historically 265+ guys weren't shredded and marketable. I think this is starting to change.

I walk around at 6'6" and 240lbs and I'm definitely not one of the big guys at the gym. I think when we see more Brock Lesnar-types enter MMA we'll see some weight changes.

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I totally agree, IF more bigger guys get to a high enough standard.
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Leaving the 225+ Class to guys like Kongo, Lesnar, Herring, Nog, Mir, and so forth.

Thing is theres nothing stopping the medium sized heavy weights from dropping a few pounds and then just cutting to the sub 225lb range. Lesnar couldn't make it but

Kongo - 240lb
Herring - 250lb
Nog - 240lb
Mir - 240lb

Actually Carwin and Lesnar are the only fighters listed on the UFC.com site that weigh over 250lbs.
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lol, why do I get the feeling this thread is a prescuse for Couture getting destroyed by Lesnar in a few weeks?

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No. Heck, I'm actually for raising the 265lb cap and seeing some real monsters in there, like Pride had. I like the concept of the HW division being the real balls to the wall class, for those really wanting to be the best of the best. Guys on the smaller side can always cut weight or utilize their speed advantage.

I'm so sick of babysitting fighters and giving every one a different weight class to be a champ, like boxing's million weight classes, it's so irrelevant. That's what makes Fedor the undisputed king of mma IMO, is the fact that he's a relatively small fighter in an uncapped weight division (in most of the world) and he still rapes everyone he faces.
Completely agree. The less weight classes the better imo, and I would love to see the cap taken off the heavy weight devision first and foremost.
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I want them to raise the weight limit for the HW division, actually.Maybe we could see monsters like bob sapp or giant silva in the ufc.Realy freakshow matches like pride had.That'd be awesome.
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they would need a lot of bigger guys. Otherwise we may end up with Carwin vs Lesnar in every 226+ fight

But I wouldn't mind a Lesnar vs Sapp or Hong-Man Choi fight. I'd pick Lesnar but it could be interesting.
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post #16 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-16-2008, 06:21 PM
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I beg mma not to add any more weight classes. It is the one thing I love about mma opposed to boxing. I dont know how to explain it exactly, but I think a wide range of weight classes is i dont know, something
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post #17 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-16-2008, 08:19 PM
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I think they should cap the LHW limit at 200 and make the HW limit about 220. This way the bigger LHWs fight at HW and the smaller HWs fight in the new HW class. Then you end the 265 cap and have the Super HW class be anything over 220 pounds.

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Honestly i think that weight disparity is a good thing. Its what makes the LHW division so great cuz theres only two options available when when ur a small HW: bulk up to get more strength or make the enduring cut to 205. Thats a good thing imo. If Forrest can cut from 245-250 then these small HW have no reason to bitch about their competitors size when they can easily cut to 205. These small guys have chosen speed over strength and that is the dynamic the makes the HW division interesting.

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Dont want to see it. As said above, there wouldnt be enough talent above 220-225. In an ideal world all fighters would fight under one organization and then I would divide the divisions like so.

Lightweight 160
Welterweight 175
middleweight 190
super middleweight 205
light heavyweight 220
heavyweight 220 +

keeping the lighter weights all the same, just my preference.
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post #20 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-16-2008, 08:59 PM
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Scrap the 265 limit.

Let's see what the likes of Mark Hunt, Hong Man Choi etc. can do in the cage.
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