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post #11 of 60 (permalink) Old 10-18-2008, 09:48 PM
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I had this feeling that Cane would beat Sokky. Sadly, it happened.

I just don't get Brandon Vera. I really don't. Tim Sylvia took this guy's soul. What the hell happened to the guy? Ah well, nice win for Jardine.

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I enjoyed all of the fights. Wow we saw some chins and stiff shots tonight. I can't believe how well Paul Kelly absorbed those shots from Lytle.

Sokky....gas tank.

Jardine/Vera played out exactly as predicted. Jardine was impressive as expected. Vera was hesitant as expected. I don't know why he's so scared to get hit, he evidently has a chin. It wasn't the weight cut, I think it is fair to say Vera has a problem fighting well known fighters. He might be right to be more cautious with the bigger names but he needs a coach that can get in his head and get him focused and confident.

Jardine is going to have to continue to watch for the vicious KO's. Vera landed plenty and a shorter arm with more behind it might have put Jardine's lights out or stunned him. I would have to rewatch the fight but it seemed to me that Jardine goes for the clinch alot and ends up getting tooled more often then not. I hope keith considers more ground work he couldn't have better team mates to learn from.

Great ending to the second rd for Jardine, those were vicious shots!

Wow Bisping's striking has improved.

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My thoughts-

I wasn't impressed with Bisping's win over Leben honestly. I'm not saying he didn't win, but there were times he was being so 'elusive' he about fell over the cage. I'll put it right up there with Henderson's last win.... Tonight Leben earned a fan, gracious in defeat and he looked like he is taking his career seriously.

Vera is pretty much done in my opinion. Don't know what happened to him, but he is a shadow of his former self. Jardine brought his usual game, hope his knee is ok.

Sokoudjou was over-rated, In my opinion he needs to revisit his camp and his training. I don't think he trains for 5 minute rounds or really for MMA. He has potential, but he's on my Kimbo list until he shows some improvement. Cane looked solid, but was really relying on the left hand.

I will always pay for PPV with Lytle, the boy comes out swinging. Him and Taylor put on a great fight.

Davis and Kelly - I missed this one, will have to watch it later.

Carwin put on another good show.

Sucks that Gono lost
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comparing sokoudjou to Kimbo is really harsh. I agree he's overrated but he's lightyears ahead of kimbo.
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Vera won 2 out 3 rounds and deserved to win anyone who says different sucks at mma
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imho vera won 2 and 3 rd u can say what ever u want but he WON ... anyway i am very impressed with carwin that dude is the shit... imho next hw champ
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comparing sokoudjou to Kimbo is really harsh. I agree he's overrated but he's lightyears ahead of kimbo.
Not really. He is a judoka who fights like a amateur kick-boxer/brawler. He has two notable knockouts, but in a brawl I could see Kimbo knocking out some big names as well. Brawling is a high-risk style of fighting and anyone can get caught. Sokoudjou also showed horrid cardio tonight, he burns out fast like a brawler and doesn't have anything else to fall back on.

He has potential, but I think he is more suited to a ground and pound style of fighting based on his build, judo background, and desire to thump skulls.
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Not really. He is a judoka who fights like a amateur kick-boxer/brawler. He has two notable knockouts, but in a brawl I could see Kimbo knocking out some big names as well. Brawling is a high-risk style of fighting and anyone can get caught. Sokoudjou also showed horrid cardio tonight, he burns out fast like a brawler and doesn't have anything else to fall back on.

He has potential, but I think he is more suited to a ground and pound style of fighting based on his build, judo background, and desire to thump skulls.
he's not a brawler in the same way that kimbo is. He fights in technical explosive bursts. He's a kickboxing instructor and a Judo Champion. It's a pretty unfair comparison.
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sokky can **** up kimbo but that does not change a fact of him being overrated
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he's not a brawler in the same way that kimbo is. He fights in technical explosive bursts. He's a kickboxing instructor and a Judo Champion. It's a pretty unfair comparison.
Cardio kickboxing? He did throw a nice jumping round kick in that fight! Some part of him wants to fight like he is in a 1980s low budget martial arts film (But honestly, don't we all?)

I agree that he is more accomplished than Kimbo in an academic sense, but he doesn't seem to apply that training.
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