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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-19-2008, 06:51 PM
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-19-2008, 06:51 PM
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Run away? LOL.

Firstly Leben is a brawler who has one punch knock out power in his left hand. Surely people didnt expect Bisping to stand there and get hit by it? (I know a lot of people would have liked him to) Secondly if a fighter has the skills/ability to avoid being hit then surely he is entitled to use that skill/ability?

Every fighter comes in to a fight with a specific gameplan. If the fighter executes that game plan to perfection and wins a fight I see nothing wrong in that.

Im sure if Bisping had stood toe to toe with Leben last night and banged for three rounds (well it wouldn't of gone that far) people would be saying ''Bisping's game plan sucked'', or ''what was he thinking''. In short no matter what Bisping does he will never get any credit for it.

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you have to be farther away to be in the kicking zone, than to punch. Bisping was engaging...he took the center of the cage almost every time they traded...he was circling away from the power hand...I'm not sure why people don't get that?
Yea which is why I said kicking. Bisping stayed way outside of leben most of the fight, well when he wasnt running in the fence as he ran away over the span of 15 minutes. Leben was the aggressor and bisping was on the outside almost the whole fight almost never taking the center of the octagon.

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Yea which is why I said kicking. Bisping stayed way outside of leben most of the fight, well when he wasnt running in the fence as he ran away over the span of 15 minutes. Leben was the aggressor and bisping was on the outside almost the whole fight almost never taking the center of the octagon.

Oh I completely understand what your saying, I did before you said anything and I doesn't make any difference.
No problem...I wasn't trying to change your mind. you saw it how you saw it. I saw Bisping win a smartly fought 3 rounds with skills better that that of Chris Leben. Come forward all you want...if you can't hit your target properly...then what good is power. Lebens skills are not as good as his power is evadently. He was successful on a take down and didn't roll with it. The better fighter won is all i'm saying. No disrespect intended

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I find it difficult to see how Bisping was supposedly "running away". He was dodging attacks and countering. He landed more strikes than Leben.

He predicted Leben would continue to come straight at him constantly, and his prediction was correct. Leben didn't do anything to correct the situation so Bisping continued the same game plan. If your opponent is letting you pick him apart, why should you change your game plan? Like it was discussed earlier, this isn't like the Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes situation. Quarry wasn't even really hit the entire match, Leben was hit more than Bisping.

Bisping showed great skill and technique, and if Leben would have done anything at all to change his gameplan, Bisping probably would have adjusted, but we don't know since Leben fought the exact same way regardless of how well it was working out for him.
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I hate when people say they are scared its called not getting knocked out its about getting in there doing damage and getting out of there without taking any damage. Machida has a article about how and why he fights like that.

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I can see a definite similarity between the way Bisping fought Leben and the way Machida fights, and I totally get why there are so many people pissed off about it. I'm not sure about the name calling and the outright anger, but if he fights like this against the better fighters in the UFC (ie NOT Jason Day) he's going to be seeing more and more of this criticism because a LOT of fans don't appreciate it.
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If Bisping was supposedly running away how the hell was Lebens face smashed in?
Even Anderson didnt do as much damage, and i know that doesnt mean much but am just trying to prove a point.

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I can see a definite similarity between the way Bisping fought Leben and the way Machida fights, and I totally get why there are so many people pissed off about it. I'm not sure about the name calling and the outright anger, but if he fights like this against the better fighters in the UFC (ie NOT Jason Day) he's going to be seeing more and more of this criticism because a LOT of fans don't appreciate it.
Well put. I can understand why people may not enjoy the style as much as a guy like Leben, who charges forward recklessly. But in the same turn how many times does that work in a row...Leben has been exposed more than few times as having a gambling style of fighting. Wins keep you going up the ladder and learning...exciting losses may keep you around for awhile...but if you never change you never keep winning

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