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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 10-21-2008, 06:55 AM
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The question you need to be asking is whether he has the mind for it. Anyone can take a decent shot to the chin and punch hard(eg. Leben, Jardine). Sure he may be physically gifted. However, as we have seen it is not physical prowess that wins fights alone(Penn vs. Sherk, Franklin vs. Silva, Fedor vs. anybody). The greatest fighters are the smart ones like GSP and Silva and Penn and obviously Fedor, Brock will only be able to reach his potential if his mind is focused and alert and if he sticks to solid gameplans. Otherwise he'll rack up loss after loss to smarter fighters, which is why the Couture fight will be amazing to watch, we get to see if Brock is smart enough to win or if he is just another greedy wannabe who happens to be really fit and big. My money right now lays on Couture not because of Brock's lack of experience or heart, but because Randy finds ways to win and Brock is frankly too immature to fight to his potential.
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Also the idea that he could take Lesnar down is simply ridiculous.
How is this ridiculous? He doesnt have to out-wrestle him. He could Judo throw him, or clinch and trip him. Or stun him with a punch and then take him down. . .
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I don't know if I would say it's ridiculous, the notion that "all he would have to do is judo throw him" IS ridiculous. If there is one advantage Lesnar has on almost every fighter there is it's his TDD and his takedowns.
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I don't know if I would say it's ridiculous, the notion that "all he would have to do is judo throw him" IS ridiculous. If there is one advantage Lesnar has on almost every fighter there is it's his TDD and his takedowns.
but lesnar's freestyle background doesn't prepare him for the types of trips that Randy has been doing his whole life
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Have you watched Lesnar's takedowns? I wouldn't put him that high yet.

Velasquez has shown good TDD already and better takedowns then Lesnar.

Carwin has looked better wrestling wise then Lesnar.

In fact O'brien is better then Lesnar from what I've seen.

I mean Lesnar shots weren't very good against Herring.
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We haven't seen Lesnar fully tested yet so I dont think you can make those assumptions that just because of his power he would win all of those fights.


Also Carwins glove size is actually one size bigger than lesnars! they said it on saturday
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Fat ass still got him down.
Are you referring to Roy Nelson? That had nothing to do with Arlovskis takedown defense if so. Arlovski was stuffing his takedowns with ease and the only time Nelson really got him on his back was when Arlovski attempted a takedown of his won which Nelson reversed. Other than that, I don't really remember him being taken down by him.

You need great wrestling to take Arlovski down. Ask Werdum.

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I don't know if I would say it's ridiculous, the notion that "all he would have to do is judo throw him" IS ridiculous. If there is one advantage Lesnar has on almost every fighter there is it's his TDD and his takedowns.
I actually said "he could judo throw him" NOT "all he would have to do is judo throw him"

Those two sentences have two totally different implications, and i'd rather not have my words twisted. Thankyou

And i totally agree with aaronyman. Lesnar needs to adapt his wrestling to MMA.
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Are you referring to Roy Nelson? That had nothing to do with Arlovskis takedown defense if so. Arlovski was stuffing his takedowns with ease and the only time Nelson really got him on his back was when Arlovski attempted a takedown of his won which Nelson reversed. Other than that, I don't really remember him being taken down by him.

You need great wrestling to take Arlovski down. Ask Werdum.
Werdum didn't even attempt to set-up his takedowns against AA. If he did, then he could've gotten him down.

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To be fair Damone Werdum caught a couple of kicks and was never able to get him down but I would agree that him not getting him down had a lot to do with Werdum being passive.
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