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Old 10-25-2008, 11:42 AM   #61 (permalink)
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That is a different situation. No one has been able to show good cardio with the knee injury Shogun had. Frank Shamrock who is known for cardio gassed after a round with that injury.

That has a lot more to do with the knee injury then the Chute Boxe training.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:48 PM   #62 (permalink)
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bbjd would defend Werdum on anything, even if there was concrete proof that he ate babies.

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lol j/k

That said, Gonzaga's cardio seemed fine prior to putting on weight for his fight against Randy Couture. After that he looked a lot slower than he did against Cro Cop, and he kept the weight and looked sluggish against Werdum.

Most guys that put on that much weight that quickly tend not to fight as well as they did at their usual weight. Hopefully Werdum is an exception.

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Old 10-25-2008, 02:49 PM   #63 (permalink)
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damnit this is like the 3rd time I've tried to rep you and still have to spread it around!
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I haven't given enough rep to other people since the last time I repped him. gotta spread it around. Like this....
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Wow I thought he looked a lot bigger then that. He really doesn't look that bad the guy is pudgy he always has been he actually doesn't look much pudgier then usual he just seems bigger.

I think Werdum will be fine. They do crazy cardio work at Chute Boxe so if he can keep up with that I'm sure he can survive this fight.

I think you guys wil be suprised by him at this weight.
Werdum is one of my favourite heavyweights, but I think most will be even more surprised with Dos Santos on general.

This is a dangerous fight for Werdum and not many people seem to realize that.

Brazilian Muay Thai HW Champ (18-0), BJJ Black Belt, and trains with Black House, not to mention hes the same size as Werdum but instead of all fat he's all muscle.

Should be a very interesting fight and I've changed my pick form Werdum SUB to Dos Santos UD.

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Old 10-25-2008, 05:21 PM   #67 (permalink)
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lol j/k

That said, Gonzaga's cardio seemed fine prior to putting on weight for his fight against Randy Couture. After that he looked a lot slower than he did against Cro Cop, and he kept the weight and looked sluggish against Werdum.

Most guys that put on that much weight that quickly tend not to fight as well as they did at their usual weight. Hopefully Werdum is an exception.
Yeah I probably would however to be fair I'm not sure if him getting bigger is really a big deal.

Gonzaga looked good to me against Werdum I mean his was light on his feet and those leg kicks where viscous he just has bad hands.
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Yeah I probably would however to be fair I'm not sure if him getting bigger is really a big deal.

Gonzaga looked good to me against Werdum I mean his was light on his feet and those leg kicks where viscous he just has bad hands.
He looked good until the second round when he gassed and got pounded on against the cage lol.

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BTW Fedor>ALL I seem to remember you being one of my biggest critics when I said he was going to go undefeated this year and establish himself as a top 5 HW. It's good to disagree with you again.
I remember you making your prediction in the thread, but I can't remember my stance at the time. I'm not entirely sure, but I think I was skeptical because it depends entirely on who he fights throughout the course of the year. If he thought Nogueira like I would have imagined he would, I think he'd lose a decision again.

Gonzaga's a big win, but I've never once considered Brandon Vera a serious threat at Heavyweight. If Werdum disposes of Dos Santos relatively easily, I'll be very impressed, even though I think he should be fighting a higher ranked opponent. This match-up definitely has much tougher implications for Fabricio if he loses.

But thus far, you're correct in your prediction. Werdum's a very good HW, but I think he should be fighting higher ranked opponents than Brandon Vera and Junior.. so I think your prediction's significance is really determined by the competition Fabby faces.
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:07 PM   #69 (permalink)
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God I hate that. Gonzaga didn't gas he looked fine until he got rocked with a knee.

I agree that I would like to see him facing the top guys in MMA but there is no one in the UFC besides Nogueira to face who is much better then Vera or Gonzaga.
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After seeing how much of a monster Dos Santos looked like on Dana's video blog and then seeing how outta shape Werdum looks I almost want to agree with you, he must figure if Silva eats Big Macs and that the secret to his sucess so Werdum went on the super size me diet figuring he'd be unstoppable.
I actually just hell on the floor laughing after reading that + rep.
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