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Old 10-27-2006, 06:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If Cro Cop was available and Dana didnt do everything in his power to pick him up I'd lose all respect for him.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The UFC and Dana White need to scout for more HW talent. Get fighters from other organizations to make the HW division more competitive.
If he does that, they are passed off as "cans" by the internet fans.

Their HW division isn't bad. I would like to Alexs come down to UFC, since his brother is champion. Also Vera, Christianson, Imes, Kongo, Pe De Pano, Eddie Sanchez are all up and comers. Then you got their solid guys like Arlovski, Sylvia, Monson, Mir...It's not that bad....
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Outside of Fedor the Pride HW's are not all that. Big Nog is a punching bag. Cro-Cop is a one-trick pony, granted it is a really really really good one trick. Still, if Randleman knocked him out with a left hook what will happen when Big Tim hits him? Josh Barnett is a fatter, slower version of Tim Sylvia with less boxing skill. Do any HW's in the world want to grapple with Monson? Why do you give Nog props for rolling great BJJ but Monson is a bum for being a grappler? IMO if Tim Sylvia was ripped like Triple H then you all would be buying his T-shirts. What if the Frank Mir of old shows up against Brandon Vera? I doubt that is going to happen but..Oh well, I get so tired of the disrespect shown to Sylvia. I doubt none of you would say it to his face.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:25 PM   #24 (permalink)
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There are so many things the UFC could do to jazz up the HW division. They could start by ditching the 268 weight limit so guys like Bob Sapp and Antonio Silva could have a chance at competing in the show. Plus, James "The Colossus" Thompson is currently out of Pride he would be a great addition. The UFC could not go wrong with him with them trying to do shows in other countries. Also, don't discount the little brother of Fedor. Aleksander is a freaking beast, and he would buzzsaw through the division. The UFC could also get mega internet popular star Kimbo to get knocked out by a real mma artists. The UFC could do all of this even before doing actual talent scounting.
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What they should do to the HW division is make the weight limit 206-unlimited.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:20 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Outside of Fedor the Pride HW's are not all that. Big Nog is a punching bag. Cro-Cop is a one-trick pony, granted it is a really really really good one trick. Still, if Randleman knocked him out with a left hook what will happen when Big Tim hits him? Josh Barnett is a fatter, slower version of Tim Sylvia with less boxing skill. Do any HW's in the world want to grapple with Monson? Why do you give Nog props for rolling great BJJ but Monson is a bum for being a grappler? IMO if Tim Sylvia was ripped like Triple H then you all would be buying his T-shirts. What if the Frank Mir of old shows up against Brandon Vera? I doubt that is going to happen but..Oh well, I get so tired of the disrespect shown to Sylvia. I doubt none of you would say it to his face.
K reading your statement shows that you must be a UFC fan. First off Big Nog is a top 3 HW in the world. He's only lost 3 fights and they have all been to Fedor, other than that he's beating everyone else and was a very dominant Pride HW champ. If you think Cro Cop isnt good then you are an idiot because Mirko could whip out anyone in the UFC. UFC's HW divions is not very good right now Pride's is obviously better but to say what you just said shows your lack of knowledge of Pride. I like Monson though and he is good but not a Top 10 HW, i hope he does beat Tim Sylvia too. Fedor isnt ripped like HHH but everyone still thinks he's great, o wait thats because he's actually is a good fighter. Tim's just a big guy with hand power, he's nothing special.
For the record i think that Fedor, Cro Cop, Nog, Barnett , Hunt and prolly Aleks could all beat Tim Sylvia. And no im not a Pride nuthugger more of a MMA fan but the UFC's HW division is weaker than Pride's.

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Old 10-28-2006, 07:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Heavyweight division in the UFC is something left to be desired! I remember Tim Sylvia saying he was going to make this division the most exciting. He failed with fights like Aussurio Silva and AA 3. Sylvia has gotten cautious. Also he is fighting people who has no chin what so ever. What Dana needs to do is get heavyweights who have strong chins that could take Sylvia's punches. If he does that then maybe thier is hope for the HW division!
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Im ok with the UFC's heavyweight division but could be much much better. But i have no doubt in my mind that prides heavyweights are much better. Fedor, Cro Cop, Nog, Barnett, Hunt, and Aleks are great heavyweights from pride and i think they could all beat the heavyweights in the UFC.
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Dana needs to ditch some of the dead weight guys and get some better talent. Best HW in UFC now is probably Tim or Monson. I like Monson because he is like the only HW that actually does submissions.
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