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View Poll Results: Were Silva's Antics Impressive Or Just Plain Cocky and Disrespectful?
It was harmless showboating 32 42.11%
It was exciting and impressive 21 27.63%
It was disrespectful 23 30.26%
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post #21 of 72 (permalink) Old 10-26-2008, 05:57 AM
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Nothing wrong with it. Also nothing wrong with Cote refusing.
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Was Silva's intention sincere or was he toying with him again? Because I've never seen this in MMA before. Was he being disrespectful here?
- I'm entirely positive his intention was sincere. Considering he doesnt have a history of being "dirty" I dont think anyone should assume otherwise. It could be perceived as a bit disrespectful because of the "showboating" he was doing only minutes earlier... however I dont think he did it with any intent other than "hey we're gentleman, come on up and lets get this fight going again."

Also why do you think Cote refused it? Or why should he have accepted it? Was he right or was it disrespectful from him?
- I think he refused it because A)It *could* have been a trick, though I'm sure even Cote felt it was sincere, but you still dont take the chance, because if he'd have eaten a knee to the face and gotten KO'ed it'd still be a loss whether or not it was cheap. B) After the earlier antics of Silva, I think it was also gamesmanship on Cotes part, as taking the hand could have been taken as "weakness." Ultimately it was the right decision. I dont look at either guy differently because of it.


How do you explain/understand what happened in this precise moment?
-Just Silva trying to get the fight moving on, and I think trying to show he respected Cote enough to offer a hand up, with Cote simply being smart and also acknowledging that it IS a fight, and there is time to be "friends" afterwards.

Ultimately I'm sure there will be people who misinterpret either fighters actions as disrespectful when neither intended any.
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Silva was just being cool, and for the showboating, i would say he was just out there havin fun like he was sparring or something. He new it was a complete mismatch and I think he was just trying to make a fight of it
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I'm 100% sure that Andy wasn't trying to do a Gamburyan. And I don't think it was intentionally disrespectful either, even though it showed how self confident he was.

Côté not accepting it was the right thing to do though imo.

I haven't seen it happen in an MMA fight before. As someone mentioned, Cro Cop used to do it, but I'm pretty sure it was in K1, so it would have been against the rules for him to do a Gamburian in that situation.
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I don't think there was anything insincere in Anderon's offer to help up Cote. I think Anderson was just out there having a good time; I think they both were having fun. However, it is good practice to never accept an offered hand in any sport while competing. Had Silva decided to use it to his advantage it would have been poor sportsmanship but definitely not cheating. I thought the offer was genuine and the refusal was smart. I think the touch of gloves after Cote stood up communicated the appreciate and respect they had for each other.
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I don't think there was anything insincere in Anderon's offer to help up Cote. I think Anderson was just out there having a good time; I think they both were having fun. However, it is good practice to never accept an offered hand in any sport while competing. Had Silva decided to use it to his advantage it would have been poor sportsmanship but definitely not cheating. I thought the offer was genuine and the refusal was smart. I think the touch of gloves after Cote stood up communicated the appreciate and respect they had for each other.
agreed, I don't think Silva, given his past of being v respectful to opponents that he was being underhand however Cote was correct in not taking his hand just incase Silva did try something!
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I dont think he refused because he thought silva would do something. I think it was just a really unusual thing to see in a fight and Cote didn't know how to react....so he did what he always does and got up by himself.

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Herb Dean was already in the middle signaling for Cote to get up so if Silva did try something while helping him up he would have been disqualified.

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I just think Anderson wanted it standing and was just offering to help him up. He probably didn't mean anything by it. Cote was smart though, unless the ref stands you up or stops the fight you should always protect yourself. If he had taken his hand and Silva knocked him out on the way up then Cote would have lost for being stupid. Silva was being nice and Cote was being smart
Exactly, Silva is way to respectful to mean anything else by it. Cote was right to not accept though.
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Disrespectful Or Amazing

I have never been so disappointed in a fighter in a long time. Anderson jumped around the ring and barely engaged Patrick at all. It was insulting to Cote imo and I don't know why Joe and some other people though it was an "amazing display" up until the injury. Silva had my full respect up until then, now he's on my temp ban list so to speak. I'm all for a little showboating but that was ridiculous, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. I talked with all my friends about it and they feel the same way.

I'm curious to see what Silva's reasoning was, because Cote shouldn't be impressed he made it to the 3rd round since Silva barely made an attempt to finish the fight (or start it for that matter) Maybe Cote is a bit to blame as well, I don't know. Either way, Silva is getting too cocky imo and needs to tone is down a bit.

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