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Old 10-26-2008, 04:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I like the 'extra cash' justification. If Zuffa does, in fact, have extra cash, it seems it would make more sense to put it back into the promotion, since I don't think having more KOs or more exhausted fighters failing to get KOs will translate to a significant boost in revenue.

They might make a few happy fighters (they got a win) a little happier on fight night, but that's about it. Reinvesting it into the promotion would allow them to expand the business so fighters can get paid more often (happier fighters) and there will be even more extra cash available.
you think forking over maybe $20 000/fight finished...so maybe $100 000 grand/event is even a significant value when your dealing w/ the an org that makes 25 million gross just on ppv buys?
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you think forking over maybe $20 000/fight finished...so maybe $100 000 grand/event is even a significant value when your dealing w/ the an org that makes 25 million gross just on ppv buys?
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to anyone who finishes fights. Not the knockout, submission, or fight of the night bonuses, but anyone who finishes a fight. UFC has extra cash to throw around why not toss fighters 5 grand if they finish fights. Most fighters need the extra money so fights would be much more fast paced and exciting. Thoughts.
How do you know they don't already give out bonuses like this? We only know the disclosed figures given to commission's.

How much money do they have to "throw" around? I know they make money, but they also spend lots to promote MMA and their brand UFC. So please let us know how much is "throw" around money! I'd be willing to bet they don't throw around as much as you'd think. That's the reason they are still here and expanding everything.
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you think forking over maybe $20 000/fight finished...so maybe $100 000 grand/event is even a significant value when your dealing w/ the an org that makes 25 million gross just on ppv buys?
how much of that 25 mill is profit?
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A 5 grand bonues won't kill their bottom line. I mean how many fights were finished on this last card? Like 4 or 5. That would only be an extra 20-25 grand in payouts.


How many fights does the UFC have on an average card? 9 or 10, maybe 11 tops. Assuming they are all finished (highly unlikely) that would only be an 45-55 grand.


45-55 grand (probably much less) in exchange for a much more exciting and action packed card thats likely to get more people watching. I think its a good bargain.
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A 5 grand bonues won't kill their bottom line.
I'm not sure anyone suggested it would. I personally suggested that it might not be the best way of getting more money to the fighters, if that's the goal.
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I'm not sure anyone suggested it would. I personally suggested that it might not be the best way of getting more money to the fighters, if that's the goal.
the goal isn't to give the fighters more money, the goal is to given them an incentive to earn more money
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It creates an incentive for guy's to fight harder and put on better fights. More KOs, TKOs and submissions would raise the entertainment value of the cards plus allow for more fights to be shown on a card since you will likely have less 3 round decisions.


Plus it is a nice way for some of the lower and mid level fighters to have a chance at making a little more money. Hell for some of the guy's it might double their pay.


All in all I don't see any downside to it.
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the goal isn't to give the fighters more money, the goal is to given them an incentive to earn more money
But as I said, why? Assuming fighters are holding back their potential KOs and submissions for ransom, increasing the average number of KOs per event isn't likely to significantly affect Zuffa's revenue and having a number of fighters gas themselves out in the first round after failing to get the KO isn't going to lead to more exciting fights. The alternative I suggested for the 'extra cash' would theoretically provide more financial opportunity for fighters and increase Zuffa's bottom line.

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It creates an incentive for guy's to fight harder and put on better fights. More KOs, TKOs and submissions would raise the entertainment value of the cards plus allow for more fights to be shown on a card since you will likely have less 3 round decisions.
Of course, you're assuming that a significant number of fighters aren't going for a KO or submission, but does that really appear to be the case?

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Plus it is a nice way for some of the lower and mid level fighters to have a chance at making a little more money. Hell for some of the guy's it might double their pay.
I agree that this would be a way of putting more money in fighters' hands on fight night. I just don't see it leading to anything else.
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it is a good idea i guess but whats wrong with decisions on ufc 90 sherk vs griffin was an incredible fight and even if a fight is finished that doesnt mean its exciting. In those fights that a guy gets tko'ed cause he is tired and cant defend himself rather than actually being hurt
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